Magnolia86 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) F hell 64 on metacritic that went down quickly. Having taken a look at the mixed reviews, I truly think that the majority of them are biased and written with an agenda. It's like they're just looking to find a reason to bash the album, from the tired gripe of the sound being oversized and the band not taking themselves seriously, to some ridiculous things like Matt's voice not being clear on Propaganda and Break It to Me, to the lyrics being confusing and stuff like that. It really irks me that it seems like hating on Muse has become a thing among these critics. And the sarcastic tone of some of these reviews, I mean, the nerve of them. Some of them have even talked about how the album will surely divide the fanbase because of all the electronic elements and so on. Oh, please, we don't need you guys to worry about us. We're fine! Edited November 13, 2018 by Magnolia86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museings Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Neither of those warrant calling them ‘clones’ or examples of the band repeating themselves though imo. That’s just two small moments in Blockades echoing B&H slightly and GUAF/Revolt is really only in tone, there’s not much musically similar to them to my ears. you are right, clone is the wrong word, just a convenient shorthand at the time. More accurately would be described as a black and white xerox of a xerox of an original colour, since the ones they mimic are superior tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklord Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Those music review sites that just write nonsense about albums are the reason why people only listen to Melon and other youtubers now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I wouldn't put too much value on reviews personally, it's usually a bunch of nitpickers who write them (coming from somebody who reviewed albums). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia O Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) Exciting times guys! I decided to do another #askaMuser on Twitter! It's on Friday 16 , the whole day, so maybe many people will take part! If not, it's lovely to talk to a handful of ppl too! So if you like, drop by Edited November 13, 2018 by Claudia O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projektxtal Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Muse albums have never reviewed well, Origin and Abso had their awful ratings too at the time. Albums like Kid A and Pinkerton got panned on release and years later they're seen as seminal albums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wickerman Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 The same critics would rate a radio pop album 10/10... most of them just want clicks/attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Born Lee Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 BHAR is the only Muse album to really get critical acclaim. I think Abso and Origin are looked upon a bit more favourably in retrospect, but not enough for people to really get down to legacy reviewing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 And the sarcastic tone of some of these reviews, I mean, the nerve of them. /QUOTE] How dare they! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 BHAR is the only Muse album to really get critical acclaim. I think Abso and Origin are looked upon a bit more favourably in retrospect, but not enough for people to really get down to legacy reviewing them. I’d say Origin was their best reviewed album tbh. There was a Guardian review that was fairly infamously bad but all other outlets I’ve found gave it between 8-10/10, think the band might have mentioned how it was well received critically around the 2011 anniversary shows as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Neither of those warrant calling them ‘clones’ or examples of the band repeating themselves though imo. That’s just two small moments in Blockades echoing B&H slightly and GUAF/Revolt is really only in tone, there’s not much musically similar to them to my ears. Agreed. If anything Blockades bares more similarities to the Handler than Butterflies and Hurricanes - the drumming in the solo, the progression in the verses, some of the vocal phrasing - but even then they're very loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamyana Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 Having taken a look at the mixed reviews, I truly think that the majority of them are biased and written with an agenda. It's like they're just looking to find a reason to bash the album, from the tired gripe of the sound being oversized and the band not taking themselves seriously, to some ridiculous things like Matt's voice not being clear on Propaganda and Break It to Me, to the lyrics being confusing and stuff like that. It really irks me that it seems like hating on Muse has become a thing among these critics. And the sarcastic tone of some of these reviews, I mean, the nerve of them. Some of them have even talked about how the album will surely divide the fanbase because of all the electronic elements and so on. Oh, please, we don't need you guys to worry about us. We're fine! Hahah, so ture. Also, they are so repetitive. Every single album they're hating on the same things. I think it's just boring. I wouldn't put too much value on reviews personally, it's usually a bunch of nitpickers who write them (coming from somebody who reviewed albums). My thoughts exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Requiem1394 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I actually agree largely with the Sputnik Music review. I think I like the ones they also liked more than them, but also essentially agree on their opinion. It's pretty well-written and seems to be by someone who doesn't have a bone to pick with the band. https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/78375/Muse-Simulation-Theory/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysfunco Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) I personally hear some traces of MK Ultra and Uprising in Blockades. Verses have some vocal melody similarities with MK Ultra, although its perhaps a bit subtle, and the word "raze" in the chorus sounds very similar in tone to Uprisings "degrading".. Wouldn't call it very similar overall though. I wish they could've done something with the choruses though, especially the last one. Changing drum pattern or whatever. It just get slightly too repetitive and boring, you kind of wait for something to happen. I like when a song go somewhere else further down the line -- like Dead Inside or The Handler to mention two more recent examples. Simulation Theory has a few too many cases of un-imaginative song structures, with a third more or less identical chorus at the end. Algoritm has a very cool, tasteful and effectful structure though, that continues to build up and develop from the beginning to the end -- without repeating itself more than necessary. One of the better songs overall though, for sure. It has the tone I overall miss elsewhere on the album (thankfully also present in Algoritm, my absolute favourite, as well as The Dark Side and The Void). Edited November 13, 2018 by Dysfunco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 I actually agree largely with the Sputnik Music review. I think I like the ones they also liked more than them, but also essentially agree on their opinion. It's pretty well-written and seems to be by someone who doesn't have a bone to pick with the band. https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/78375/Muse-Simulation-Theory/ They don't like the Void, so they're wrong. Other than that, it's a bit harsh, but largely on point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 The same critics would rate a radio pop album 10/10... most of them just want clicks/attention.And radio pop obviously can’t be good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel_Tufnel Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I wouldn't put too much value on reviews personally, it's usually a bunch of nitpickers who write them (coming from somebody who reviewed albums). If people really want the lowdown on Muse, they just need to check out this forum. No nitpickers here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Rockwell Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I actually agree largely with the Sputnik Music review. I think I like the ones they also liked more than them, but also essentially agree on their opinion. It's pretty well-written and seems to be by someone who doesn't have a bone to pick with the band. https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/78375/Muse-Simulation-Theory/ A damp, muffled thud describes this album perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 A damp, muffled thud describes this album perfectly That's how they described the Void though, not the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 For the American fans Muse is playing on Jimmy Fallon tonight. I've never watched the show but I'm assuming music acts get one song and it'll be Pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim59 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Dig Down acoustic is pretty nice. And TDS AR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dysfunco Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 For the American fans Muse is playing on Jimmy Fallon tonight. I've never watched the show but I'm assuming music acts get one song and it'll be Pressure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oelfqxMSaM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Born Lee Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 God the sound is always so bad on these shows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyndris Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Oh my god what the fuck was that hahaha. The sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 I actually agree largely with the Sputnik Music review. I think I like the ones they also liked more than them, but also essentially agree on their opinion. It's pretty well-written and seems to be by someone who doesn't have a bone to pick with the band. https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/78375/Muse-Simulation-Theory/ Nah, sorry. They already burn themselves out by retreading the same "Muse have sold out because of Twilight and they're not making music I like1!!1" tomfolery of many. Also, to say they've been unwilling of re-liting the spark or not even trying on this album is just proposterous. They may not have a bone to pick with Muse, but nonetheless I feel it's the usual lament behind nostalgia goggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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