serpentsatellite Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 That "best Bliss falsetto" at Live 8 was altered, too. I havent been paying attention; what are they altering live? Theres no way an unaltered Handler gets released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) Yeah, check my edit. These days they've even started doing it live at the gigs. Nah, that's not pitch corrected as its all over the place (Well still could be, as anything could, but not a great example). Can sort of correct it using Melodyne, but it doesn't want to detect the whole note without crashing. Edited June 4, 2016 by haze015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 That "best Bliss falsetto" at Live 8 was altered, too. I wish I'd never read this.... Guess Earl's Court night 2 is my fave now (well it was already joint first anyway) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 They haven't been altering anything live from what I know, but they've been overdubbing Matt's vocals to make up for the fact that he's singing it like half an octave lower than the original in Take a Bow. Nah, that's not pitch corrected as its all over the place (Well still could be, as anything could, but not a great example). Can sort of correct it using Melodyne, but it doesn't want to detect the whole note without crashing. It's just the last note we're talking about. I remember it being a big deal when the proshot was released back in...2011? Haven't listened to it since then though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 It's just the last note we're talking about. I remember it being a big deal when the proshot was released back in...2011? Haven't listened to it since then though. Nah, you can hear him bend into the note at the start, then it wavers around, then there's the vibrato. Like I said, I can sort of change it in Melodyne, but its not great with full songs. It was just that last note I tried as well, just doesn't detect the whole thing, then crashes when I try getting it to so I can edit it to a static held note. Bliss at Live 8 is a blatant example though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 Nah, you can hear him bend into the note at the start, then it wavers around, then there's the vibrato. Like I said, I can sort of change it in Melodyne, but its not great with full songs. It was just that last note I tried as well, just doesn't detect the whole thing, then crashes when I try getting it to so I can edit it to a static held note. Bliss at Live 8 is a blatant example though. Which video are you using for reference? I still don't believe for a second that the Bliss note has been raised an entire octave. Since you're already messing with the software, you're welcome to show me how you would do it and still have it sound remotely believable. You can of course use an acapella track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 (edited) Which video are you using for reference? I still don't believe for a second that the Bliss note has been raised an entire octave. Since you're already messing with the software, you're welcome to show me how you would do it and still have it sound remotely believable. You can of course use an acapella track. It wasn't moved up an octave*, they messed with the timing and tided it up pitch wise or just replaced with another recording, but even creates problems. If you've got access to high quality recordings of the microphone prior to any effects, then I'd be happy to give it a go, otherwise its a pointless task to expect to get the same results. Distortion, especially with the high end softened a bit can be enough to hide it. Post-distortion processing would emphasise it. *As shown here: Edited June 4, 2016 by haze015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted June 4, 2016 Share Posted June 4, 2016 It wasn't moved up an octave*, they messed with the timing and tided it up pitch wise or just replaced with another recording, but even creates problems. If you've got access to high quality recordings of the microphone prior to any effects, then I'd be happy to give it a go, otherwise its a pointless task to expect to get the same results. Distortion, especially with the high end softened a bit can be enough to hide it. Post-distortion processing would emphasise it. *As shown here: I was basing that on the last time we had this argument, but I had forgotten that we actually moved past the octave thing But yeah I agree that it's edited somehow. So...basically we're in agreement. Go figure I manage to argue about it anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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