odier Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Or only the member of this board that allowed to vote lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Heat Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Or only the member of this board that allowed to vote lol That would actually be fair i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I didn't obsess about the sets when I saw them during this tour. It made me enjoy the shows more, and be slightly surprised at what I saw. I was never obsessive either but dull is dull. I just want to see more energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 #bringbackdealerschoice Just like everywhere else, including places where they did bring out rarities. Lol at this logic. Muse brought out a few rarities in the beginning of the US tour, and they didn't go over well at all, so they stopped. They thought it would be better in Europe, but it wasn't really, aside from a few exceptions, so they stopped that too. It's not like they could have known before they tried. You guys are literally bending over backwards to make your logic work. Now they wanted to try something differently, and you guys are making damn sure it won't happen again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozenbanana Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Or only the member of this board that allowed to vote lol #Showbizfor2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyP117 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Wow, what a fantastic setlist. Micro Cuts so far down is interesting, looking forward to seeing how his voice fared on that one, same with Futurism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 That would actually be fair i think.How is it fair? It's good for us because the majority won't "ruin" it for us by picking the hits, but it is in no way fair simply because it's what we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
odier Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 #Showbizfor2016 #AssassinFor2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander DeLarge Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 How is it fair? It's good for us because the majority won't "ruin" it for us by picking the hits, but it is in no way fair simply because it's what we want. But the majority is already getting what they want. It's us that need to be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spittle Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Now they wanted to try something differently, and you guys are making damn sure it won't happen again. That's exactly what I was just saying to Tahnee. It's understandable that people get frustrated, but I imagine it will just make Bellamy more distant and even less inclined to play the songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I can imagine what reddit is saying about this "JUST BE GRATEFUL MATT FARTED IN YOUR DIRECTION" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Heat Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 How is it fair? It's good for us because the majority won't "ruin" it for us by picking the hits, but it is in no way fair simply because it's what we want. I guess we represent a portion of Muse's hardcore fans somehow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozenbanana Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Yeah, tweeting "you've let us all down tonight Bellamy!!!!!" and "so many fans disappointed by this omg" and stuff like that at Matt is probably not going to make things better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 In fairness he seems to be looking past that and is responding well to the constructive criticism. There doesn't need to be a board-only vote. All he has to do is, the night before a gig say "hey for tomorrow's gig would you rather hear futurism or fury? fav for fury, rt for futurism". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Not when you've just played all those rarities to a festival crowd. That's it exactly. Everything Matt said might be true, but he's using it to justify playing that set list to a crowd that still 99% didn't know the songs. So what's the difference? Smaller venue does not mean it's full of hardcores. In the case of Psycho Tour it just meant more hardcores couldn't get in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 The problem here is basically that if Muse are gonna keep doing the special gigs thing, it can't be a gamble. You can't have the Paris show being just like the rest of the tour, only to do a special gig a week later. There are fans who travel a long way and pay a lot of money for a change to see a Muse show that is something special. So when you're a band who don't really surprise people very often, it should probably be expressed. Either you're a band who can make every show special or different, or you should make it clear when it happens, otherwise people will be disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander DeLarge Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I guess we represent a portion of Muse's hardcore fans somehow Don't we? Go talk to a random fan in a queue or read the subreddit or the tweets. People who are passionate about things are generally more involved about those that are not. Having a board requirement at least eliminates a lot of votes for Knights of Cydonia and Uprising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I can see what people are saying but, thankfully, I don't think Matt seems discouraged at all. His last tweet reiterated that he likes the idea of doing a rarity tour with voted setlists but just needs to work out how to do it. Normally, I wouldn't put much stock in it but he said it a few times and seems to have really taken in what people have said. Hopefully this whole thing results in this finally happening. The logistics really shouldn't be hard to work out, it'd just be a shame if it was restricted to one country again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 It's not like people were asking for a whole set like this one , it's was just two or one slot And this. Put one or two fucking good songs in each set instead of crying that they "fall flat." Bliss was crossed off the set, literally, in the US ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Let's sacrifice ADL to the gods and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I can see what people are saying but, thankfully, I don't think Matt seems discouraged at all. His last tweet reiterated that he likes the idea of doing a rarity tour with voted setlists but just needs to work out how to do it. Normally, I wouldn't put much stock in it but he said it a few times and seems to have really taken in what people have said. Hopefully this whole thing results in this finally happening. The logistics really shouldn't be hard to work out, it'd just be a shame if it was restricted to one country again. All I ask for is 24 hours notice before tickets go on sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyP117 Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 In fairness he seems to be looking past that and is responding well to the constructive criticism. There doesn't need to be a board-only vote. All he has to do is, the night before a gig say "hey for tomorrow's gig would you rather hear futurism or fury? fav for fury, rt for futurism". That is a fantastic idea. One rare song a night is all it would take. Fair play to Matt responding to people. The majority are being arseholes sadly, giving him grief is only going to make him not want to play more rare songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gerbenletzer Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 Let's sacrifice ADL to the gods and see what happens. To honour him, Muse will not play CE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexander DeLarge Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 I'm not arguing that this place isn't a circlejerk but it's a circlejerk of people who have a passionate and mutual interest about the band. Better to listen to us than this cesspool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted July 2, 2016 Share Posted July 2, 2016 All I ask for is 24 hours notice before tickets go on sale. Oh god, don't. When you mentioned heart failure earlier, I instantly had flashbacks to the Psycho Tour sale Yeah, pls don't do that again, Muse. I get that it's cool to surprise people but there's personal health to consider here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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