Jobby Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 oh? "I’ve always felt like two hours is the max for me. Both viewing and playing." from my question in the Q&A ting. Doesn't specify 'this tour' exactly but they've referred to the Drones shows as being 2 hours just about every time length has been brought up tmk. Even if that's a bit off, that answer makes it seem like he feels he couldn't do much more than they have been in any case. Weird considering the Unsustainable shows were, what, 20-30 minutes longer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
projektxtal Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Festival sets are always going to be shorter, the problem is the amount of playback shit like prelude, isolated system, jfk, drones choir etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I doubt they actually perform for much more than ~80/120 in a two hour set which is utterly ridiculous, especially considering the ticket prices are just going up and they seem to be supplying less actual content. That's a big part of why I won't be seeing Muse again, at least not until they start giving value for money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 He also said it way back in that interview where Matt admitted to being out of shape. I thought it was a poor excuse back then, and I still do, since they're not exactly PLAYING two hours in the first place. I think it's fair to wonder why they would play 18 songs at some festivals, and 15 at others, if they're both headlining slots. If you know you're given a shorter slot, it's really time to fucking cut it out with the playback crap and diddling around between songs. Although, tbh, I'm retroactively surprised they were playing that many songs at festivals in the first place, since that's what they were playing on the actual tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) I think it's fair to wonder why they would play 18 songs at some festivals, and 15 at others, if they're both headlining slots. Muse Logic. Rock Werchter was also slightly longer than the other gigs of the last festival leg; 18 full songs plus the jam. In contrast, most others had 16, Warsaw had 15 and Download had 17. Edit: I'd really love to know what was going through Matt's head before RW; why it was longer and why it got the set that it did. Edited July 1, 2016 by ryanp16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 (not so)Fun fact: Rock Werchter was also the only time the band hit 18 full songs during the entire Drones era. Even TR Tour had a better record than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 And being honest, I really don't believe the arena sets were 2 hours, even with all the playback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mozza Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 And being honest, I really don't believe the arena sets were 2 hours, even with all the playback. Manchester was 1hr 50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Just add any good song and it would be better. That's pretty redundant. When will this "Just add one/two songs..." stuff end? I think it's time we start judging the setlists for what is actually on them (if we're gonna judge song titles on a piece of paper at all, that is) Relax, my reply was "just to say", nothing more. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 (edited) By the way, I think these festival gigs are to be counted in as part of Drones World Tour, somehow. That could explain why they are playing The Globalist and such. In short terms, it's a scaled down version of the 360 ° Stage gigs. Edited July 1, 2016 by MartianSpaghettiRider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Manchester was 1hr 50 Maybe i timed it wrong, but I clocked DC at around 1hr40 tops. And that one actually had the full set. The band came on rather late so it seemed longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 A 15-song setlist (by a band with 7 albums) that includes Starlight, Madness and Mercy? I guess most fans just lowered their standards? OK point taken. There's plenty to complain about with it so I guess my expectations are lowered. Difficult for me not to considering how long this has been going. My enthusiasm was really because of the run from psycho to handler to be honest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I would have been pretty happy with SS and Bliss in one set with that festival stage. Just strange it was so short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I don't really have a problem with their song choices (although they totally chickened out on going back to rock as soon as they remembered that they've built an audience based on pop singles), but the number of playback tracks, and number of tracks overall is quite shit. But honestly, we can't realistically expect Muse to drop all their pop songs. They're not that kind of band. What we can hope for is a good mix of songs to please different people, and that's exactly what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 But honestly, we can't realistically expect Muse to drop all their pop songs. They're not that kind of band. What we can hope for is a good mix of songs to please different people, and that's exactly what they're doing. Is it? I can probably count on two hands the number of shows of the Drones era which had an optimal range of songs to please everyone. What's also incredibly important, and a lot of other people don't seem to think this, is the actual placing of the songs. If they play rarities or fan favourites it's completely pointless sticking them all together, at least for me. Take last nights show for example, The first 6 songs I'm down with, but after that it's time for me to go to sleep. It would've been so much better to but Stockholm later on, like after Uprising or something. If I'm at a gig and I get at huge run of songs I've either heard a million times or ones I'm not fond of, it's going to really put a downer on me. It's the same with if they throw 2-3 rarities together, that's great while it lasts but I'm probably in for a huge borefest afterwards. At least if they're spread out and you get something like Dead Star the elation you experience will flow into the next song and you'll enjoy that more too. The two best gigs I was at got it right. Rock Werchter; Micro Cuts, Uno, Citizen, AP, with two-three songs between them (except that latter), Dublin this year, Bliss, CE, Map, Take A Bow. Again all evenly spaced, which made the songs I don't care for in between more enjoyable. This is in stark contrast to the following night, where there were no pick-me-ups. tl;dr Song placement is just as important as the songs they choose to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 tl;dr Song placement is just as important as the songs they choose to play. That's your Setlist Muse Board Overlord POV though, 99% of people don't care too much about the song order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Setlist Muse Board Overlord fml, I can't change this to my custom title because it's two characters too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 fml, I can't change this to my custom title because it's two characters too long. What about setlist .mu overlord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 What about setlist .mu overlord Now if only I could use that font. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Ryan's right about one thing, which is the rock and older songs were clustered together - all at certain gigs. There seemed to be (in Europe) one rotation that could expect a good mix of Bliss, Map, CE, TaB, SS abd another that was only slightly better than a US set. They were wildly uneven, and if your area had one gig, your odds were a bit poor. It doesnt inspire me with confidence that Muse found, or cares about, that balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 That's your Setlist Muse Board Overlord POV though, 99% of people don't care too much about the song order. fml, I can't change this to my custom title because it's two characters too long. What about setlist .mu overlord Now if only I could use that font. The words "fuck" and "off" come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 The words "fuck" and "off" come to mind. Admittedly I feel like a complete asswipe proclaiming myself "setlist .mu overlord", but really it was Fabri who said it first, so it's okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Frakkles Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 But nothing Fabri says is "ok"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 I just wanted to see if Luke would react to that, in fairness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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