muhaggart Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Starting this thread for tabs or tips on how to achieve some of the live sounds that the band achieve, or live versions of any songs that people want to learn. Gonna start this one off by asking about a sound that is repeated once Matt has tuned his guitar down an octave on his D string on Stockholm live at Wembley on HAARP. There is a sound that I can only assume is produced by Chris that repeats a few times until the end, and it sounds like a 'yeoww' sound with a decreasing pitch, and is very grainy. I love this sound and was wondering if anyone has any ideas as to how it is produced (effects, techniques, etc). Thanks, and lets hope this thread is helpful to many! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 I've only got the CD version here, but if it's the sound I'm hearing, that's the string tuned down + the harmonic mode on the sustainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhaggart Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 I've only got the CD version here, but if it's the sound I'm hearing, that's the string tuned down + the harmonic mode on the sustainer. Not entirely sure we're hearing the same sound here. It plays underneath Matt. Almost sounds like a synth or something but my best bet would probably be some fuzz on the bass. Thanks though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Is it in this video? If so, at what time? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wV9_je85DE I imagine it's something Morgan is doing. He's usually on stage during this song. There seems to be limited information about what he uses (let alone the exact effects) but you might want to start here http://musewiki.org/Keyboards#Nicholls.27_gear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhaggart Posted March 25, 2016 Author Share Posted March 25, 2016 Is it in this video? If so, at what time? I imagine it's something Morgan is doing. He's usually on stage during this song Yeah around 7:13 I can hear it a bit. It is quite low in the mix, and if possible bass boosting on the video may be required. That was my other thought, it is very possible that it may be Morgan that's making the sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 (edited) If we're thinking of the same thing, it just sounds like Chris smacking the bass randomly with loads of fuzz and Morgan doing some synth magic. EDIT: all the "omg psycho" comments on that video Edited March 25, 2016 by nerd herd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flump Posted March 25, 2016 Share Posted March 25, 2016 Yeah around 7:13 I can hear it a bit. It is quite low in the mix, and if possible bass boosting on the video may be required. That was my other thought, it is very possible that it may be Morgan that's making the sound. If its the sound that you can hear again right around 7:42 then its definitely a synth of some sort. It does sound like it could be chris playing through one of the Deep impact's settings (like the weird little frog thing he does in sunburn for example) or just morgan smashing some notes on an actual synth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 I would suggest it's the deep impact, based on hearing a similar sound in some earlier pre Morgan gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellraiserqq Posted March 28, 2016 Share Posted March 28, 2016 Hello everyone. so Matt is playing the solo of the handled a bit diffrently on live version. has anyone figured it out? it sounds really cool. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbrown Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Hello everyone. so Matt is playing the solo of the handled a bit diffrently on live version. has anyone figured it out? it sounds really cool. thanks What do you mean? He plays the solo the same way live as it is in the studio, except with a few mistakes because even Matt Bellamy isn't perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 At some gigs he alters the entire ending; but I think it starts off as a fuckup he's covering up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Yeah exactly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7zDv4Iq0Ng The end of the build up (around 2:35) seems like it was intentional, as he does that sort of thing in his playing pretty often. Not sure if it's done like that at every gig, but the rest seems like a nice little extension for the original solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Just playing the D Harmonic scale in descending manner rather than ascending Also the little fuck up cover up bit in the build of that exact performance is him just moving chromatically and realising it sounds bad haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 Can't really tell hearing it on my phone, but is the studio version of the solo playing in the background in that video? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhaggart Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 New question: In the invincible solo live at Wembley (Around 4:37) I was wondering, is Matt using 2 fingers to tap on his right hand? It sounds like there is more to it than just tapping with the whammy then leaning off for the trilling to me, and it definitely looks like it. It doesn't seem to be present with every set of taps/trills but it just seems to sound different than the way that I have learnt it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 I don't hear anything, maybe it sounds slightly different as he doesn't quite time the tap with the treadle still moving? I think his other finger is in that position because of the way he olds the pick/tucks it under his middle finger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhaggart Posted April 12, 2016 Author Share Posted April 12, 2016 I don't hear anything, maybe it sounds slightly different as he doesn't quite time the tap with the treadle still moving? I think his other finger is in that position because of the way he olds the pick/tucks it under his middle finger haha yeah I think that pick thing might be right, I hold mine like that. I think you may be right about the pedal too, its probably just him leaning off after a couple of hammers and pulls before the rest of the trill. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 New question: In the invincible solo live at Wembley (Around 4:37) I was wondering, is Matt using 2 fingers to tap on his right hand? It sounds like there is more to it than just tapping with the whammy then leaning off for the trilling to me, and it definitely looks like it. It doesn't seem to be present with every set of taps/trills but it just seems to sound different than the way that I have learnt it. Thanks. Nah one finger but the way he's holding his pic makes it look like two. There's a lot of delay on the guitar tone so that might be what you're hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbrown Posted April 14, 2016 Share Posted April 14, 2016 has anyone ever figured out and/or written a tab down for the new Knights improv solo during the outro? Matt's been playing it ever since the beginning of 2015 afaik and here's how it goes https://youtu.be/xCf1Ft5AIXo?t=7m8s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muhaggart Posted April 14, 2016 Author Share Posted April 14, 2016 has anyone ever figured out and/or written a tab down for the new Knights improv solo during the outro? Matt's been playing it ever since the beginning of 2015 afaik and here's how it goes https://youtu.be/xCf1Ft5AIXo?t=7m8s Only spent a couple of minutes trying to figure this one out but its sounding pretty close I think. I'm very tired so please forgive me if there are any errors but I think this does the trick? Some of it is a bit inaudible given the mixing and all that but... y'know e|---------------------------5+-5+-7+----------7+---------------| B|---------------------0-0---------------------------7+-----------| G|----------------------------------------5+~----------7+~------| D|------------------------------------------------------------------| A|------------3+~-------------------------------------------------| E|-3-0-0-0--------------------------------------------------------| e|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| B|-------------------------------------15------14-----14-----------14-----------------------| G|-2(dive with trem bar)-/12--17b19------14-----14-----------14------------------| D|----------------------------------------------------------------14----------14--------------| A|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------16b17----| E|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| e|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| B|-----------------------------------------------------------7-------7-------7------| G|-----------------------------------------------------------9b11--9b11--9b11-| D|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| A|---16b17-16-14-16-14--14-14-14-14-14-14----------------------------| E|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbrown Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 Only spent a couple of minutes trying to figure this one out but its sounding pretty close I think. I'm very tired so please forgive me if there are any errors but I think this does the trick? Some of it is a bit inaudible given the mixing and all that but... y'know e|---------------------------5+-5+-7+----------7+---------------| B|---------------------0-0---------------------------7+-----------| G|----------------------------------------5+~----------7+~------| D|------------------------------------------------------------------| A|------------3+~-------------------------------------------------| E|-3-0-0-0--------------------------------------------------------| e|-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| B|-------------------------------------15------14-----14-----------14-----------------------| G|-2(dive with trem bar)-/12--17b19------14-----14-----------14------------------| D|----------------------------------------------------------------14----------14--------------| A|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------16b17----| E|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| e|-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| B|-----------------------------------------------------------7-------7-------7------| G|-----------------------------------------------------------9b11--9b11--9b11-| D|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| A|---16b17-16-14-16-14--14-14-14-14-14-14----------------------------| E|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| that actually sounds pretty accurate to my ears, thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukelion Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Anyone have any ideas on the Micro Cuts Rock Werchter 2015 live sound here? Intro mainly https://youtu.be/4UvbSMCbYT4?t=20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01FromFinland Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Anyone have any ideas on the Micro Cuts Rock Werchter 2015 live sound here? Intro mainly https://youtu.be/4UvbSMCbYT4?t=20 Could be just very slight OD from amp/profiler, delay and a very slight phaser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbrown Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Anyone have any ideas on the Micro Cuts Rock Werchter 2015 live sound here? Intro mainly https://youtu.be/4UvbSMCbYT4?t=20 Its a mids boosted OD from an amp in the kemper with a little bit of delay with a thick reverb with a long decay. There's also a fair bit of subtle tremolo in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dukelion Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Thanks guys, i'll give it a try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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