Finn. Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I'm surprised is not in the news section, because is an huge improvement over the old CD releases http://www.hdtracks.com/absolution-254578 Has anyone bought it yet? Are the albums remastered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 I'm surprised is not in the news section, because is an huge improvement over the old CD releases http://www.hdtracks.com/absolution-254578 Has anyone bought it yet? Are the albums remastered? Haven't bought it but plan to. They sound to the naked ear definitely remastered, I saw waveforms a while ago about these and they look like a remaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Nice, they have all their albums. Tempting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Most people don't have high-end speakers so it would hardly matter for them. I only have simple Logitech Z-10 speakers. Sound okay, but not high-end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted September 28, 2015 Share Posted September 28, 2015 Most people don't have high-end speakers so it would hardly matter for them. I only have simple Logitech Z-10 speakers. Sound okay, but not high-end. All you need are good headphones, you can hear the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 What i wonder is: 1) Why Muse haven't announced this with fireworks. I still think the albums are the heart of a band and having the possibility of download them in very good quality is a great event. 2) Why these downloads are not in this web. They should be here because right now is the more desirable way to listen to the albums (except maybe The Resistance 5.1) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daekdroom Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 All you need are good headphones, you can hear the difference Considering the master is different, this is definitely right. You don't need the audio subtleties, just the better masters (BHaR, I'm looking at you...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Are they remastered, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted September 29, 2015 Author Share Posted September 29, 2015 Are they remastered, though? I'm no sound engineer but the albums sound better. The instruments and the voices are much more clear, tracks like Citizen Erased, Megalomania and Futurism are in a new dimension to me. Now you can hear every single detail. And Black Holes & Revelations sounds gorgeous, yes, Black Holes & Revelations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 (edited) Not sure what to make of this. Pretty sure it's unofficial, so I can't see how it'd be a proper remaster as you need access to the original master recordings to do that (I think?). That said, some of the songs I've listened to do seem to sound a fair bit clearer and meatier, not sure I fancy paying all that money for them though (or how much of it is placebo). Edited September 29, 2015 by Jobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted September 29, 2015 Share Posted September 29, 2015 Most people don't have high-end speakers so it would hardly matter for them. I only have simple Logitech Z-10 speakers. Sound okay, but not high-end. Ok? Is this a public service announcement or something? Anyone that has bought them, could they upload a snippet of the waveform/spectograms from a song and a lossless CD rip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 (edited) Oh, man, I thought the day would never come. So glad I just saw this. Listening to some of the previews now, and they definitely sound better. Going to have to try and get some of these. If only Hullabaloo Soundtrack was on there and I could get my beloved Hyper Chondriac Music as well, but everything else is on there. Sounds great anyway. Damn it, Muse! Edit - Absolution seems the most noticeably improved to me? Edited September 30, 2015 by Bs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Are they remastered, though? They're from the same master. You can tell by listening closely and noticing that they sound exactly the same. I'm no sound engineer No, you aren't, which is why you're easy prey for this consumerist garbage. HD audio is little more than a theoretical improvement, almost never seen in practice and even if it were, demonstrably imperceptible to the human ear, retailing for the simple reason that it creates a cognitive dissonance encouraging you to spend more money. Take a long, hard read of the following: http://archimago.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/24-bit-vs-16-bit-audio-test-part-ii.html?m=1 If that doesn't convince you either way, please feel free to perform your own double-blind listening tests using Foobar. I'd be curious to see your results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian-Cygnus-Running-Out Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I didn't really notice a ton of improvement from the snippets, but I don't have high quality sound equipment, and the snippets seemed to short for me to make a decision on whether or not the sound was better. Muse aught to just officially release remasters of their worst sounding albums and put them on spotify and the like so I can be sure it sounds better before I drop 20 bucks on it (or maybe I'll just buy the vinyls and see if I like the sound better then...). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Not sure what to make of this. Pretty sure it's unofficial, so I can't see how it'd be a proper remaster as you need access to the original master recordings to do that (I think?). That said, some of the songs I've listened to do seem to sound a fair bit clearer and meatier, not sure I fancy paying all that money for them though (or how much of it is placebo). It's not placebo, how could these sites not be getting sued up the ass for profiting from unofficial products that claim to be remasters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I didn't really notice a ton of improvement from the snippets, but I don't have high quality sound equipment, and the snippets seemed to short for me to make a decision on whether or not the sound was better. Muse aught to just officially release remasters of their worst sounding albums and put them on spotify and the like so I can be sure it sounds better before I drop 20 bucks on it (or maybe I'll just buy the vinyls and see if I like the sound better then...). You won't be able to hear shit on spotify because it has its own equalizer to combat the loudness wars. It makes bad mixes sound worse and good mixes sound the same Oh, man, I thought the day would never come. So glad I just saw this. Listening to some of the previews now, and they definitely sound better. Going to have to try and get some of these. If only Hullabaloo Soundtrack was on there and I could get my beloved Hyper Chondriac Music as well, but everything else is on there. Sounds great anyway. Damn it, Muse! Edit - Absolution seems the most noticeably improved to me? I'd say Absolution is the most improved too, but id also say BHAR now sounds like how it should've sounded from the start. They're from the same master. You can tell by listening closely and noticing that they sound exactly the same. No, you aren't, which is why you're easy prey for this consumerist garbage. HD audio is little more than a theoretical improvement, almost never seen in practice and even if it were, demonstrably imperceptible to the human ear, retailing for the simple reason that it creates a cognitive dissonance encouraging you to spend more money. Take a long, hard read of the following: http://archimago.blogspot.com.au/2014/06/24-bit-vs-16-bit-audio-test-part-ii.html?m=1 If that doesn't convince you either way, please feel free to perform your own double-blind listening tests using Foobar. I'd be curious to see your results. Total bollocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 The b33f bell has been sounded, batten down the hatches, £5 headphones at dawn allyee naysayers and blaggards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Total bollocks Look, if you want sound quality at resolutions and sample rates far beyond what human ears in even the most optimal listening conditions can allow for, be my guest. I get it, I used to swear by lossless audio until I realised it was an oversized load of crap. By coming into these boards to describe it as a "huge improvement," "much more clear," and as the "more desirable" way to listen, the OP is actively encouraging other people to waste their money on this placebic bullshit, most likely so he can validate his own uncertainty about the matter. That is not ok, and I'm happy to call him out on it. Like I said, feel free to run some ABX tests and prove me wrong. You know what those are, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted September 30, 2015 Author Share Posted September 30, 2015 By coming into these boards to describe it as a "huge improvement," "much more clear," and as the "more desirable" way to listen, the OP is actively encouraging other people to waste their money on this placebic bullshit, most likely so he can validate his own uncertainty about the matter. That is not ok, and I'm happy to call him out on it. Not at all, i'm giving my opinion, and i prefer the sound of these new files to the old CDs. Take it how you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 I'd say Absolution is the most improved too, but id also say BHAR now sounds like how it should've sounded from the start. Shame Assassin is still only the shorter version though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weezul Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Okay, I posted this challenge over at /r/muse as well. Here's a link to a comparison of HD Audio and FLAC CD masters of Hysteria and Knights of Cydonia https://mega.nz/#!fYYlRKYQ!DfcZR6cgOsdzwwf6IvTuLLd6L_sHRXeOc6FQ3P4nc3c [it's only 1 min of each song] WITHOUT using a spectral analyser, tell me the timestamps below where the masters change back and forth. It changes multiple times back and forth over each clip. Obvisouly if they have been remastered so obviously, everyone will get the timestamps. Enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted September 30, 2015 Share Posted September 30, 2015 Looks like they're not available in the US, so I'm assuming there's been action or something taken against that site at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 According to the loudness war.com these new remasters aren't exactly the best done, but i still think is an huge improvement http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=muse I'm still waiting for The Resistance and an official press release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 According to the loudness war.com these new remasters aren't exactly the best done, but i still think is an huge improvement http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=muse I'm still waiting for The Resistance and an official press release. You won't see an official press release because they aren't official remasters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyCake Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Isn't and audiophile someone that takes advantage of underage songs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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