DukeNatty Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 That's weird. The body doesn't really look any longer than usual. I think the neck is meeting the body two frets higher - about an inch further up. Makes me wonder how big the heel is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 It kinda has a fat ass... Curves are good though That on the other hand is just bottom heavy ...What were we talking about again? Is this before or after you noticed the pickups? Also, the remaining parts for the ovation have just arrived... hopefully I'll have it finished up by the end of today. Pics (and maybe a video) soon. Oh and to the above post, I'll have a closer look. I think the MoC usually joins at around the 16th fret, but I can't remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Yeah, the neck is in the wrong place. I wonder how it looks from behind...? Otherwise, it doesn't look too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L32 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 24 frets. maybe that is the reason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 But yeah, I've just finished up the ovation. a few issues with the wiring at first, but it all appears to be good now. Some of the grounds coming off the switch are not that stable though, so I might redo those at some point. I'll get some pics soon. Almost feels like an honor to restore this guitar... even if it didn't require THAT much. But depending on who it went to, it could've ended up hung on a wall, or modded further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 But does it have mojo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 But does it have mojo? I wouldn't know, the strings aren't on yet (speaking of that, rotosound has changed their packaging to be like ernie ball's...) But other than that, it's all done. I'm getting the plates from musecasters, but I can still play it without those But the fact that musecasters is making them will increase the mojo tenfold It's definitely got a lot of [TGP]battle scars[/TGP] anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted November 15, 2014 Share Posted November 15, 2014 24 frets. maybe that is the reason Good catch. That design really doesn't work with though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 DONE. This one actually sounds loads better than the other one. Maybe the pickups really are dying in that one. Or it could be the mojos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Nice job, looks great. I don't like it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Nice job, looks great. I don't like it though Understandable, no one liked those guitars until Josh Homme started playing them Really impressed by the sound of this one... almost tempted to swap out the pickups in the other one. Is it possible that pickups can actually "die" after several years? or at least become weaker? They both measure (in DC resistance) at exactly what dimarzio spec'd them at, but I don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul LyoNZ Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Is it possible that pickups can actually "die" after several years? or at least become weaker? They both measure (in DC resistance) at exactly what dimarzio spec'd them at, but I don't know Never heard of them fade out to a slow death, I have switched from neck to bridge and killed a rail humbucker instantly before though. Even that's unusual. They are pretty hard to kill. I hear rumors of an old pickup sitting rusting away in a jar of water in the Seymour Duncan headquaters. Legend says that every few years they pull it out, dry it off and wire it into a guitar for a laugh and a few instagram pics before chucking it back in the jar.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Witz Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 I guess they do have magnets in them so if they have been through a strong magnetic field or dropped several times this could affect the magnets, not sure what this would do to the sound precisely though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 It is possible, the magnets in them can be degaussed, especially if they're alnico. Thy would make them thinner and weaker. They may also be wound different, how many years since they were made?? Any number of factors may have changed, from magnet type to thickness of the insulation on the winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 According to dimarzio, they are ceramic. I don't know. The neck pickups sound very similar to each other, but not the bridge pickup. One sounds like a PAF almost (lots of cutting upper mids, lower output) and the new one sounds a bit more like you'd expect (massive mid heavy sound) There's just a massive difference in output/volume/etc when switching from neck to bridge on the old one, but the new ones are pretty well balanced. Pickup height is similar as well. So unless they changed the spec of the bridge pickup only, I don't think it's really that likely. The guitar is 30 years old, so the pickups are around that age. I'm tempted to swap the original ones out, but I think I'll leave them unless they die completely. After all, we all know I'll end up selling this guitar (maybe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul LyoNZ Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 Degaussed, that's the word I was looking for. Similar sort of thing if not a fancy name for demagnatisation. I may have even made that word up, spell check doesn't like it at all. Basically that can happen if you tap ya pick up with a strong magnet, like Witz said. I'm sure you're not stupid enough to do that. I've heard of somebody cleaning steel filings out from there guitar with a strong magnet and ruining there pups so it does happen by accident though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted November 16, 2014 Share Posted November 16, 2014 If the originals sound unbalanced, I'd be inclined to think dimarzio "fixed" the design without telling anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Not sure what's happened in the past 30 years to this particular bridge pickup, but I have no idea if they changed the design. All I can say is the DC resistance is the same, but I have no idea about anything else. I wonder how easy it is to change the magnets. Nah, not going to risk ruining it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted November 17, 2014 Author Share Posted November 17, 2014 Thanks James! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Happy Birthday!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul LyoNZ Posted November 17, 2014 Share Posted November 17, 2014 Speaking of not going to risk ruining things.. I had a turn with the Sustainer Humbucker.. I can't bring myself to do it either. I had a n array of devices ready to operate but the underside is sealed with a resin (including the wiring which is sealed in the resin). There is a tiny seam with a small join, I couldn't pry it at all. It's just not worth the risk, sorry to disappoint team. Any body have a single coil they want to sell/swap before I go back to Fernandes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul LyoNZ Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I got some work done over the weekend. And then I got too excited and routed a REALLY big hole in it.. Check out my way of getting the recessed lip around the edge.. Just put a bigger bearing on a smaller router bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mittle Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I got some work done over the weekend. And then I got too excited and routed a REALLY big hole in it.. Check out my way of getting the recessed lip around the edge.. Just put a bigger bearing on a smaller router bit. Wow, wondering about how much weight you just saved yourself from carrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musecasters Posted November 25, 2014 Share Posted November 25, 2014 I got some work done over the weekend. And then I got too excited and routed a REALLY big hole in it.. Check out my way of getting the recessed lip around the edge.. Just put a bigger bearing on a smaller router bit. i find to keep the router bits staying sharp as long as poss, drill out the bulk of the wood then finish with a router looks good. not much of a lip for the plate fixings though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul LyoNZ Posted November 26, 2014 Share Posted November 26, 2014 Haha, yeah that would have been the ticket... Note for next time huh. The block of wood weighs a ton anyway. Good to get rid of some of it. And I think I'll just extend the lip that run right angles to fix the plate too. May have a look at sharpening my router bit before I tackle that job.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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