Sophie. Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 There's a simpler solution... which would be to be mindful of the cost of the production they're putting on, and keep it in line with reasonable ticket prices AND profits... This. I know that people want to see a spectacle, but gig ticket prices have been rising steadily for years, and they are rapidly getting to the point where they are NOT affordable. Even 50 quid on short notice is stretching it for a lot of people on an average wage. 70 quid is just being goddamn rude. As I said earlier, there are so many people I know who have been priced out of seeing Muse because of the cost of the tickets on this tour. Even if it is the production costs that have raised prices on this tour, I'm absolutely certain that if they toned down the promise of a spectacle and accordingly decreased ticket prices, the band would sell just as many tickets - if not more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johi36 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 See, I don't even want a bloody spectacle. I'd be so much happier with a very simple gig, but I'll still pay those stupid prices cause I just want to see them... they won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I'm already considering selling my tickets for either one or both London gigs tbh. The more I think about it, the less and less likely it seems like it's gonna be worth it, especially going by recent setlists. I guess I've got time to think about it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 I'm already considering selling my tickets for either one or both London gigs tbh. The more I think about it, the less and less likely it seems like it's gonna be worth it, especially going by recent setlists. I guess I've got time to think about it though. Seven months, by my count. So yeah, plenty of time. I was hoping to do both in London, but the price put me off, and a part of me may still offload this if I think "Nah, this won't be worth it". But I'm willing to wait until the Paris gigs at the start of this tour, see the sets and make a decision from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malton Seadog Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Amsterdam announced. 9th March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanksrfc Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Got Standing tickets in the venue pre-sale today for Glasgow. Not to fussed about ticket price as spent a lot more travelling to the Etihad gig when I think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malton Seadog Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Seated tickets also available today for Glasgow! I got straight through! Might be worth checking other venues for those who missed out yesterday!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 When watching footage from U2's recent Amsterdam residency, I've noticed that there was nobody behind the stage, which is the only gig so far on their tour that has been such. Is the Ziggo Dome a venue set-up for conventional end-stage shows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malton Seadog Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 When watching footage from U2's recent Amsterdam residency, I've noticed that there was nobody behind the stage, which is the only gig so far on their tour that has been such. Is the Ziggo Dome a venue set-up for conventional end-stage shows? Looks like it. No seating behind the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanom Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Ive seen both shows with spectacular productions like Wall-remake and simple ones like Jack White and Neil Young. They are both amazing to attend. I dont really have a preference Its down to the personal choice of the artist. Muse have done plenty of laid back gigs at Psycho tour. I understand that they want something huge now. Also it is not possible to do what they are doing with drones at an open stadium gig. If you have 16 drones flying close by, you cant afford to deal with wind and weather conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Looks like it. No seating behind the stage. So there isn't. Its also been said in the thread for the Brussels gig that the venue there is the same, which means its a little surprising they didn't pick Antwerp SportsPaleis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malton Seadog Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Glasgow too. See below. Seems odd that for an 'In the round' tour, several venues are only three sides. I guess standing folk will still surround them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I actually like the arrangement of Glasgow's stage, even if its a little odd. Wonder if a similar arrangement is gonna be used for Dublin, which uses a similar alignment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Its down to the personal choice of the artist. Muse have done plenty of laid back gigs at Psycho tour. I understand that they want something huge now. The Psycho Tour was, what, 5 gigs? Wouldn't really call that 'plenty'. Anyway, you can play big venues and have a decent production without it becoming overbearing and distracting, which is what Muse have leant towards over the last 5 or 6 years. They started off this era aiming to strip things back and for once I think they actually achieved that. This production makes it sound like they've taken 1 step forward and 2 steps back though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplytom Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I'm really unsure whether to try for standing or seated tomorrow. Which ones will I have the best chance of getting? I'm not bothered if I'm high up or anything, I just really want to see them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArrow Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Glasgow too. See below. Seems odd that for an 'In the round' tour, several venues are only three sides. I guess standing folk will still surround them though. My concern with this is with the majority of the crowd facing one direction will it mean the band will focus most of their attention that way? Might mean people standing at the rear where most of the standing space appears to be might end up spending most the gig looking at Matt's ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 My concern with this is with the majority of the crowd facing one direction will it mean the band will focus most of their attention that way? Might mean people standing at the rear where most of the standing space appears to be might end up spending most the gig looking at Matt's ass Pretty much. Even if the seats went all the way the round, the band would almost definitely end up focussing in one direction anyway 'cause of which way the instruments + microphones are facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight__ Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I've been to Ziggo Dome too many times, and there are no seats behind the stage, because there is actual stage even in ziggo. every band brings their own stage there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanksrfc Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 At least it is at The Hydro this time around which should be a lot better than the shed across the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovemymonkey Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 What gets me is the fact that in the Czech Republic it's only 57 euros for standing (or about £41) It'd almost be worth flying out there and staying for a couple of days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilovemymonkey Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Even better is 40 Euros for Madrid...Why do we get stiffed so much in the UK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sophie. Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I live just outside London, but hilariously, it would be cheaper for me to get a ticket and return flights to Lisbon, than to get the train up to London and a ticket for the O2 I'm still all systems go for Paris though. Perfect excuse for a holiday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcanom Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 The Psycho Tour was, what, 5 gigs? Wouldn't really call that 'plenty'. Anyway, you can play big venues and have a decent production without it becoming overbearing and distracting, which is what Muse have leant towards over the last 5 or 6 years. this is again, down to the preferrence. What they do is an art and some bands or musicians prefer to do plain, straight forward gigs and some do the other way around. Considering production as "overbearing and distracting" in my opinion is wrong. Because an gig should be considered as a "whole". You just have to accept that what you are paying for is not plain music, but a show. They started off this era aiming to strip things back and for once I think they actually achieved that. This production makes it sound like they've taken 1 step forward and 2 steps back though. They started off aiming to strip the sound back, they never mentioned anything production wise. That being said, I also would like Muse to do more intimate and striped back gigs. But I know that I will enjoy the shit out of the amazing production they are planning about. And I bet you will also do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johi36 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 That being said, I also would like Muse to do more intimate and striped back gigs. But I know that I will enjoy the shit out of the amazing production they are planning about. And I bet you will also do I bet I will too. Although I really, really disliked the stuff from the last stadium tour. I didn't go to any of the non-arena gigs for T2L tour, but I saw the Rome DVD (That gasoline drinking woman? Errr, no. ) Maybe it's cooler when you're actually there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 this is again, down to the preferrence. What they do is an art and some bands or musicians prefer to do plain, straight forward gigs and some do the other way around. Considering production as "overbearing and distracting" in my opinion is wrong. Because an gig should be considered as a "whole". You just have to accept that what you are paying for is not plain music, but a show. They started off aiming to strip the sound back, they never mentioned anything production wise. That being said, I also would like Muse to do more intimate and striped back gigs. But I know that I will enjoy the shit out of the amazing production they are planning about. And I bet you will also do I left feeling positive about the TR tour, but once the "omg, I just saw TaB" wore off, I remembered that I'd been pretty disappointed through most of the gig. The stage set up was really cool. For the opening song. Then it just became a giant prop that made it so I couldn't see the band, and made me feel like I was watching a really elaborate laser light show. People's opinions aren't "wrong" because they don't reflect what the band is actually doing. It's a commercial product that people pay a ton for, and they are entitled to feel however they want about it. Most band's "shows" don't involve this sort of production, which I also happen to agree is often distracting, overbearing, and often obstructive of the performance. And it's understandable that, when Matt first began talking about "stripping back" and "having gone too far" that it was during an interview about Live in Rome, that people would have made the assumption that they were also talking about the live shows. Especially when they were also saying they were embarrassed of the big robot in the long run, and thought they'd run out of ways to top themselves. And I didn't see the stadium T2L tour, either, obviously, but the stage actually looked kind of uninteresting, tbh, and the actors were sort of painful. The T2L arena gigs actually got the balance between "show" and performance right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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