FabriPav Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Not really sure. I remember reading about the process before but I think Metacritic keep their algorithm a secret. It seems pretty obvious. They take a 3/5 and put it as 60/100. If a site uses an alternative method (be it stars or a word like "good" in a scale from "shit" to "perfect", for example) they just "translate" it in numbers out of 100. Metacritic is best used for aggregation, not statistics. Yeah this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased 01 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I will be sad if this album ends up with worse reviews than 2nd Law Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 It seems pretty obvious. They take a 3/5 and put it as 60/100. If a site uses an alternative method (be it stars or a word like "good" in a scale from "shit" to "perfect", for example) they just "translate" it in numbers out of 100. Yeah this. There's also the weighting that they give to some reviews over others, and the fact that a 3/5 on one site is not necessarily equivalent to a 60/100 on another site. I also dislike Metacritic because it encourages way too much focus on the score, to the point where some game developers' jobs have depended on getting above a certain threshold on Metacritic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 There's also the weighting that they give to some reviews over others, and the fact that a 3/5 on one site is not necessarily equivalent to a 60/100 on another site. I also dislike Metacritic because it encourages way too much focus on the score, to the point where some game developers' jobs have depended on getting above a certain threshold on Metacritic. They give different weight to some reviews compared to others? Care to elaborate/give examples? And it's people who give too much focus to scores, not Metacritic itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 They give different weight to some reviews compared to others? Care to elaborate/give examples? And it's people who give too much focus to scores, not Metacritic itself. They supposedly give more weight to certain review sources when figuring out an overall score, but that's just something I've read elsewhere so maybe it's just a rumor. And yeah of course, but Metacritic just makes it a lot easier. Though some game reviewing sites are starting to discontinue review scores, which is a trend I wouldn't mind seeing in movies/music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exogenesisman Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 So far its pretty obvious the 30-50% of people in the Music reviewing business who hate/dislike Muse still hate/dislike Muse but the other 50-70% seem to like the album more than both TR and T2L by a pretty solid majority. And some even like it better than BH&R. So I don't think there's any question that Drones so far has gotten much better reviews than The 2nd Law, and a little better than The Resistance. Muse is just one of those bands that people seem to either love or hate more often than not and you can't really judge the hate group because that reviewing blocking usually makes up about the same percentage of overall reviewers each album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spark_ Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 They supposedly give more weight to certain review sources when figuring out an overall score, but that's just something I've read elsewhere so maybe it's just a rumor. And yeah of course, but Metacritic just makes it a lot easier. Though some game reviewing sites are starting to discontinue review scores, which is a trend I wouldn't mind seeing in movies/music. Yeah I've definitely heard of this being the case for games, so you'd imagine it's similar for music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spark_ Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/music/muse-paul-weller-and-ffs-bring-back-the-1970s-we-should-have-had-20150609-ghizhk.html I assume this counts as a review, though it's more of a thinkpiece at times. 4 stars nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exogenesisman Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 http://www.thespectrum.com/story/entertainment/2015/06/17/muse-explores-modern-warfare-drones/28878859/ Here'a great review, pretty much my view on Drones. 4.5/5 Stars is what this guy gives it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henners Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I will be sad if this album ends up with worse reviews than 2nd Law Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased 01 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Why? I find it far superior Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dip Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 http://www.upsetmagazine.com/albums/muse-drones/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattestro Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 http://www.upsetmagazine.com/albums/muse-drones/ Another review which once again only seems to review the concept/lyrics and not much about the music itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Another review which once again only seems to review the concept/lyrics and not much about the music itself. The lyrics are a key part of it though. I want to enjoy Drones but I find some of the lyrics to be so jarringly awful that they ruin the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henners Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I find it far superior That's brilliant. Now that that's established, you don't need to worry about what the critics think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dip Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 The lyrics are a key part of it though. I want to enjoy Drones but I find some of the lyrics to be so jarringly awful that they ruin the song. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen Erased 01 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 That's brilliant. Now that that's established, you don't need to worry about what the critics think. wut u chatin bout? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattestro Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 The lyrics are a key part of it though. I want to enjoy Drones but I find some of the lyrics to be so jarringly awful that they ruin the song. The music is a key part of it too though, obviously. Basing near enough a whole album review on lyrics.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 The music is a key part of it too though, obviously. Basing near enough a whole album review on lyrics.... It's not a perfect review, but the point of the review is that "as soon as that voice stops being an instrument and the lyrics come into focus, the whole affair becomes too jarring to avoid." I don't see what's wrong with saying that the lyrics are shite and that distracts from everything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1ack0ut Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 The Quietus Well, now, it seems that the multi-million selling combo Muse, the Nirvana-inspired Prog rock band of note, have released a new album entitled Drones. It's a concept album, if you will, which seeks to paint in rock musical colours a harrowing, Orwellian picture of a world reduced to a totalitarian state, in which mysterious men in cloaks pull the levers (as depicted in the album's striking artwork) and vast, controlling machines eat away at the soul of the individual, killing all dead. F*** me with the wet end of a guided f***ing missile that's accidentally landed in a giant tub of f***ing horseshit, the f***ing swear word hasn't been coined that's sufficiently f***ing potent enough to convey just what a jawdroppingly, pants-chewingly, arse-achingly abysmal f***ing album these serially offending c***wits have come up with this time round! To call it "utter bollocks" would a f***ing insult even to the meanest, sweatiest pair of bollocks! I would in all seriousness consider my time to have been more rewardingly spent if I'd pressed my f***ing ear up against the bollocks of a random f***ing bloke on the tube for 53 f***ing minutes than listened to the toxic f***ing barrel of rancid elephant smegma that is Drones! Can you imagine the internal agonies of whatever poor c*** of a f***ing record company executive had to experience every last minute of this pompous, incoherent, incontinent, beyond-laughable, addled, 112th rate, thunderously f***ing vacuous tower of toss? "Well, this is what they pay me the big bucks for," he'd have told himself as he fought down the united, shrieking chorus of every last fibre in his f***ing being, urging him to grab that arpeggiated arsehole Matt Bellamy, punch him in that f***ing horrible little face of his that's way too f***ing small for his f***ing head,, kick him up the arse and propel him haircut first into his f***ing water cooler! It's meant to evoke the spirit of 1984 and that it f***ing does! The year in which the big, empty f***ing drum programmes of Phil Collins, Howard Jones and The f***ing Eurythmics stamped like a boot on a human face for what felt like f***ing forever! A harrowing future in which every f***ing major band from f***ing Coldplay to f***ing Mumford & Sons to these c***s would by authoritarian decree sound like an even blander f***ing U2! Put it another way; if, back in the day, Freddie Mercury had shagged Bono, Muse are what would have subsequently dribbled from the Irishman's f***ing anus! Track one! 'Dead Inside'. And here's where we get to the f***ing gist of our bold, latterday Winston Smith's f***ing hissy, histrionic f***ing whining, that reverberates through the f***ing album like the cries of an old man in a hospital ward who's been kicked in the f***ing testicles by a horse! What is this terrible event that will "unleash a million drones"? A collapse of the political system? A superbug laying low civilisation? No! He can't get a f***ing shag! And that, of course, is the girl's f***ing fault for not recognising his f***ing fascinating intensity! "You like to give an inch/Whilst I am giving infinity [C***, by the way, for using f***ing "whilst"!] . . .You've taught me to lie without a trace/And kill with no remorse." Get the message, females? It's thanks to your f***ing shallowness and indifference to Matt f***ing Bellamy's cock that you've created the killing machine that will rampage across the rest of this f***ing album! I hope you're happy! Then there's 'Psycho', borne on a f***ing riff so aimlessly f***ing stodgy and mouldy even f***ing Deep Purple would have hesitated to f***ing use it! Followed by "Mercy"! "Men in cloaks always seem to run the show/Save me, from the ghosts and shadows before they eat my soul", warbles Bellamy, like he's having his f***ing gonads sandpapered by an over-fussy mother! Save you? I wouldn't f***ing hand you a bogbrush if you'd fallen down a toilet bowl and were drowning in your own piss, you pitiful little twat! Now 'Reapers', with Bellamy caterwauling like someone is manually rotating a pineapple wedged halfway up his f***ing arse at irregular f***ing intervals! More lyrical crap about killing and drones which has long since ceased to make any f***ing narrative sense! And now we really get busy with the f***ing "flight of the bumblebee" cod-classical stylings that remind you of those f***ing albums you used to get with titles like K-Tel Presents - Rock On, Beethoven! The Sounds Of 1796 Recreated In The Synthesized Styles Of 1976! Somewhere, a f***ing music teacher needs to be taken outside and f***ing executed! More of the f***ing same shite on 'The Handler'! And so it f***ing drones on - vague doggerel about conformism, machines, society, breaking free and rebelling, all delivered with so little f***ing specificity and context a f***ing Fox News anchorman could probably f***ing sing along and punch the f***ing air to it without any hint that he was missing the f***ing point! Suffice to say I would rather eat a whole f***ing packet of un-inflated balloons than be subjected again to this howling f***ing bilge, with Bellamy singing like a f***ing That's Life dog doing an amusing f***ing canine version of 'Bohemian Rhapsody'! Finally, the end is in sight but only before wading through one last fresh hell, as if through a steaming moat of blood-flecked turds; 'The Globalist', an extended f***ing fantasy about a bloke who destroys the world just because he needed to get a little love and never did. Searing f***ing analysis there! Just think, there'd have been no Holocaust if someone had only given Hitler a f***ing cuddle and no Khmer Rouge if one of those Cambodian girls had thought to give Pol Pot a peck on the cheek rather than be all two-faced and superficial! Bellamy, you truly are the mother and father, son and f***ing daughter of all c***s! Christ in Heaven, this is a f***ing atrocity of a f***ing album. Absolute, grade A, priceless f***ing horsewank! They should set up a special court in the f***ing Hague for it, next to the f***ing War Crimes one! You can actually f***ing sense the band getting shitter as the album progresses - Bellamy went into the studio to record Drones a man, and came out a f***ing boy - the sort of f***ing tortured, desperately self-important adolescent boy who spends his evenings with his head stuck out of his f***ing suburban window screaming "I HAVE A PENIS, TOO!" at the moon and beating his bare f***ing pigeon chest! Drones - an album made by stupid, pathetic c***s for stupid pathetic c***s! http://thequietus.com/articles/18182-muse-drones-review Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Do people really find stuff like that funny? I'm pretty immature, but not THAT far gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Least funny thing I've come across in quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 Least funny thing I've come across in quite a while. Yup. tl;dr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Ferris Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 The DiS one is harsh but it's a perfectly legitimate music review, unlike the other one (but we've all commented on that already) I think DiS were fairly on-the-money there, apart from the claim that Muse are beating the prog thing to death (if anything the album could use more weirdness). As for their claim that it's actually a very safe album rather than anything daring, I'm very much with them. Also, they don't really give the lyrics much of a kicking. I'm surprised more people haven't picked up on the relative anonymity of Dom's drumming- as I was with Matt Helders on AM, now I think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse samuse Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Listening to and greatly enjoying new @muse record https://twitter.com/tmorello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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