JessicaSarahS Posted June 10, 2015 Author Share Posted June 10, 2015 Huh, I actually agreed with him with quite a lot of it That wasn't a bad review, I enjoyed it despite of the score. But his points are valid. I don't know how he usually rate albums, a 5 isn't decent in my mind, but is it in his? :LOL: I agreed with a lot of it as well, except for his comments about Drones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I don't like how you could totally tell this was lazily put together. Vid quality is trash, crooked green screen, Fantano sounding like he just doesn't care... sucks mainly because he always seems to take vids seriously. Bit of a disappointment on that side, ignoring content of the review. That said, it's still more of a thorough/fair review than any of the others we've had so far. It is strange he just didn't mention Aftermath or Revolt as mentioned. I liked that he cracked that smile for Defector Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattestro Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 I don't like how you could totally tell this was lazily put together. Vid quality is trash, crooked green screen, Fantano sounding like he just doesn't care... sucks mainly because he always seems to take vids seriously. Bit of a disappointment on that side, ignoring content of the review. Most vids I've seen from him are like that I thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Most vids I've seen from him are like that I thought? He has a calm composure in all of his vids, but certain nuances from this one tipped me off to what I mentioned. Just more uninterested/lackadaisical than usual more or less in approaching the review and it seemed like there were minimal cuts. Made it seem like it was just done really quickly kind of thing. T2L's review by comparison shows a good contrast I think just because he seems more willing to present us with a review rather than just kind of say "here it is". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spark_ Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Well he did say he was kind of indifferent to it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Well he did say he was kind of indifferent to it... Well yeah I know that but it's just lazy to come off as indifferent to approaching a review in general. Opinions on the album are legitimate, sure, it's just a tad lacking on his part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I can't say I agree with Fantano most of the time, but I thought that was a pretty decent review. I thought it way way more fair than his T2L review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurkinglurkerlurksagain Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Well yeah I know that but it's just lazy to come off as indifferent to approaching a review in general. Opinions on the album are legitimate, sure, it's just a tad lacking on his part. Spectrum Pulse gave Drones a 5/10, but he went much more in depth than needledrop. Still think Drones is a 8 to 9/10 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwingsrock Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 The lyrics are meant to tell a story and do so literally., I'd say that's a big flaw. Fixed! The story is told very well with the lyrics. Its just told extremely literally. When most think concept album, they think thought provoking lyrics that deal with complex ideals open to interpretation. Drones wasn't even trying to be this, and that is why I think people are missing the point. Yes, the lyrics are "beat you over the head literal" and occasionally cringe worthy, but the story is told very well. Not sure what critics were really expecting from a Muse concept album, but its clearly obvious that some are missing the point. If you are comparing this to The Wall simply because they are both "concept" albums, then you have only yourself to blame in your disappointment. I'd be interested to see what the album would have scored if it wasn't billed as a concept album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 A well told story doesn't necessarily excuse a bad one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 A well told story doesn't necessarily excuse a bad one. The presence of a bumpy potato doesn't necessarily excuse the presence of a smooth one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 The Downward Spiral (mentioned before in the album thread) is probably as literal than Drones as far as the narrative goes but I can get a lot more invested into that one. There's a musical aspect to that too, even though the trend for Muse has been to look at them separately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 The Downward Spiral (mentioned before in the album thread) is probably as literal than Drones as far as the narrative goes but I can get a lot more invested into that one. There's a musical aspect to that too, even though the trend for Muse has been to look at them separately. I tend to ignore the story in that one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I admit to using "well, it's for the story..." To justify lyrics I wouldn't have been able to get past on that album, back in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redwingsrock Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 A well told story doesn't necessarily excuse a bad one. I agree...I think. But the post I quoted said that the story was poorly told, which it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I'd argue the story is badly told too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I'd argue the story is badly told too. Through bad lyrics, I presume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 No, through high level poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 I'd argue the story is badly told too. Yeah, it's told really blandly. I mean, look at the quality of Hospice compared to this. Matt just isn't a story teller, which is fine, but he should know to play to his strengths. Through bad lyrics, I presume. Well… Yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graciegirl Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Drones has been trashed in the LA Times, I don't think the reviewer is a fan or has a clue what he's talking about. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-muse-drones-review-20150608-column.html Some reviewers seem to take great joy in slagging something off if they don't like it, hardly subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Some reviewers seem to take great joy in slagging something off if they don't like it, hardly subjective.Isn't that literally what subjectivety is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Drones has been trashed in the LA Times, I don't think the reviewer is a fan or has a clue what he's talking about. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-muse-drones-review-20150608-column.html Some reviewers seem to take great joy in slagging something off if they don't like it, hardly subjective. He seemed to be slagging off the production more than anything. He does compliment Muse's musicianship, and says the album's production fails them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graciegirl Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 He seemed to be slagging off the production more than anything. He does compliment Muse's musicianship, and says the album's production fails them. He finishes the "review" with Unfortunately, Muse's efforts can barely get off the ground and wouldn't survive a war against a fly swatter. So not only Mutt's production but the boys' efforts too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 He finishes the "review" with Unfortunately, Muse's efforts can barely get off the ground and wouldn't survive a war against a fly swatter. So not only Mutt's production but the boys' efforts too. Oh no, a reviewer was hard on a band. Someone call the wah-mbulance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graciegirl Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 Oh no, a reviewer was hard on a band. Someone call the wah-mbulance. Mature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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