LewisF Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Ah, that's why I like him. He is good:LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Maybe the damn solo is so damn long his mind just starts to wander... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter. Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 lol how is it long?? it just needs that double bass drumming. damn, that'd be ace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johi36 Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 Maybe the damn solo is so damn long his mind just starts to wander... He probably regrets writing it, now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 lol how is it long?? it just needs that double bass drumming. damn, that'd be ace. Maybe "long and repetitive" is what I meant. Length wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't just the same damn thing with no build up or variation, for like a whole minute or so. I only get a few seconds into it now before I'm thinking about, like, funny dog videos and tacos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meisver Posted September 17, 2015 Share Posted September 17, 2015 I can relate to this song on many levels... But hey, I'm a sucker for Nature1 also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted September 18, 2015 Share Posted September 18, 2015 He'd be fine with the solo if he stood still and concentrated on it oh, this guy <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Maybe "long and repetitive" is what I meant. Length wouldn't be a problem if it wasn't just the same damn thing with no build up or variation, for like a whole minute or so. I only get a few seconds into it now before I'm thinking about, like, funny dog videos and tacos. i kinda feel like it makes sense in the context of the song though, kind of like how reapers solo is supposed to hint at bombs dropping - the handlers solo is frantic and has a whirly phaser effect going on to signal the change in the "protagonist" no longer willingly being controlled by the handler or i'm talking utter shite and just enjoy being able to play along with it for some "impressive" one hand guitar wankery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johi36 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 i kinda feel like it makes sense in the context of the song though, kind of like how reapers solo is supposed to hint at bombs dropping - the handlers solo is frantic and has a whirly phaser effect going on to signal the change in the "protagonist" no longer willingly being controlled by the handler or i'm talking utter shite and just enjoy being able to play along with it for some "impressive" one hand guitar wankery That's probably exactly what Matt was thinking when he wrote it. Both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 i kinda feel like it makes sense in the context of the song though, kind of like how reapers solo is supposed to hint at bombs dropping - the handlers solo is frantic and has a whirly phaser effect going on to signal the change in the "protagonist" no longer willingly being controlled by the handler I think the length is relative. Psycho drags around its sludgy riff for a while to represent brainwashing, while the repetitive solo represents unbrainwashing, it's probably meant to give you a sense of "phew it's over" when it ends. There's a few other parallels between the two songs as well so it makes sense conceptually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I think the length is relative. Psycho drags around its sludgy riff for a while to represent brainwashing, while the repetitive solo represents unbrainwashing, it's probably meant to give you a sense of "phew it's over" when it ends. There's a few other parallels between the two songs as well so it makes sense conceptually. ^This. The Handler is strictly related to Psycho, regarding the lyrics. "Someone who'll kill on my command / And ask no questions" --> "I will execute your demands" "Your mind is just a program..." --> "I have been programmed to obey" "Your ass belongs to me, now" --> "You will never own me again" And so on. These are the first examples that have come in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jinger Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 ^This. The Handler is strictly related to Psycho, regarding the lyrics. "Someone who'll kill on my command / And ask no questions" --> "I will execute your demands" "Your mind is just a program..." --> "I have been programmed to obey" "Your ass belongs to me, now" --> "You will never own me again" And so on. These are the first examples that have come in my mind. actually before it was even released matt confirmed the 3rd verse/ interlude directly relates to the song Showbiz from the 1st album, and as far as i am aware they haven't said anything regarding the handler's and psycho's lyrics being related other than being a part of the same story which is obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 actually before it was even released matt confirmed the 3rd verse/ interlude directly relates to the song Showbiz from the 1st album, and as far as i am aware they haven't said anything regarding the handler's and psycho's lyrics being related other than being a part of the same story which is obviousNot sure what needs to be said. They're both about the same person in a linear story, so obviously the lyrics are referencing what has happened previously in the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Psycho's length doesn't really bother me anymore. It might've been a bit more endearing if it'd been kept short and sweet like it was meant to be, but it's fun as fuck so I don't mind. I've gotten used to The Handler's solo/bridge length as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Matt said the entire Handler was related to Showbiz, I don't think he meant just because the later line that is similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibros Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Honestly I was about to post this on the covers thread but this one showed up on my "new posts" tab. so what the hell. behold the falsetto OT: It's still my favourite from Drones by far. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uT8-BdB6OA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johi36 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Not bad, not bad at all. EDIT: oh, is that you? Didn't mean to be mean. Cool cover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogles. Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I always envisioned the solo in The Handler as the protagonist fighting their way out, and then Defector and Revolt was the protagonist inciting a revolution amongst other brainwashed people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alibros Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Not bad, not bad at all. EDIT: oh, is that you? Didn't mean to be mean. Cool cover! you're right though. It's a bitch to play. mainly because it gets boring after a few repeats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Why is this thread active with debates of extremely obvious things that were obvious months ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted September 25, 2015 Share Posted September 25, 2015 Why is this thread active with debates of extremely obvious things that were obvious months ago... Because unfortunately, life must go on even without Mr. Citizen_Eraser here to lead discussion ): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 This song released a year ago in a few days. So after all the dust has settled and the hype has died down...IMO it still stands as a top 5 best Muse songs of all time. Without question. Didn't think I'd be saying that about any song on this album pre-release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAurelia Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 For me, The Handler is the best song of Drones. It'special. It is Muse' sound. And it's amazing live. :LOL: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DramaQueen. Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I don't think I'd put it in a top 5 best Muse songs, although it'd be really difficult for me to do a top 5, tbh I consider it the best off Drones, and it's amazing live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurkinglurkerlurksagain Posted May 29, 2016 Share Posted May 29, 2016 The song is incredible live, and the light show makes it even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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