-FutureStar- Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Madness had a certain charm initially because it was so different. I never listen to it now, but at first I gave it a good chance. Mercy though...it's like Muse on auto pilot. B-Side material. I guess so! For me Madness was just a little plain. Different though, granted. Last chorus was nice. I get what you mean with Mercy, it feels b-side-like and a little Muse-by-numbers but it's damn catchy and the guitars are big. Plus, it has a lush bass riff. Mmmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Man Pigeon Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Bass riff is the best thing about it. There's a lot of Muse songs I could say that about actually... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crushpunch Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 to be honest, this album easy will be my 5 favorite muse album (or 4) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolic Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Maybe "Reapers" 5:30 / 6 min and "The Handler" 6 / 7 minutes. 14/15 minutes per side? Wiki Well we've got the official times for the songs so... Dead Inside 4:22 Drill Seargeant 0:29 Psycho 5:16 Mercy 3:51 Reapers 6:10 The Handler 6:45 [JFK] 1:34 Defector 4:51 Revolt 3:36 Aftermath 4:39 The Globalist 9:42 Drones 5:17 Source: Some guy working on iTunes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Source: Some guy working on iTunes *sigh* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k024er7 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 They still believe.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedrigall Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Well we've got the official times for the songs so... Dead Inside 4:22 Drill Seargeant 0:29 Psycho 5:16 Mercy 3:51 Reapers 6:10 The Handler 6:45 [JFK] 1:34 Defector 4:51 Revolt 3:36 Aftermath 4:39 The Globalist 9:42 Drones 5:17 Source: Some guy working on iTunes The same person who posted that on Reddit then posted this a few days after: http://i.imgur.com/rFechJc.png Proof - http://www.reddit.com/user/itunes_drone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k024er7 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Wikipedia's pt version still has that track times, I saw it a few days ago...I bet many people are still being fooled by that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordo21 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I wonder what quote they are using for the JFK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bohemian-Cygnus-Running-Out Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I really like IBTY but so much not the French bit... Bassoon solo is epic, though! Descriptions of this album have me so confused about what to expect, but we'll just have to wait and see. So far this album sounds like it's a million miles above T2L, though, which is great. My love for that album declined rapidly after the honeymoon period... I'm pretty sure it's a bass clarinet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Well we've got the official times for the songs so... Dead Inside 4:22 Drill Seargeant 0:29 Psycho 5:16 Mercy 3:51 Reapers 6:10 The Handler 6:45 [JFK] 1:34 Defector 4:51 Revolt 3:36 Aftermath 4:39 The Globalist 9:42 Drones 5:17 Source: Some guy working on iTunes >"official" >some guy working on iTunes >pick one I wonder what quote they are using for the JFK. Matt already said in an interview it was the same clip they used for their intros during BHAR era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k024er7 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I was wondering...maybe the "deep ecology" theme Matt talked about is like a lesson on how to recycle old riffs and intros Now, seriously...where does that theme fit in the concept of the album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I was wondering...maybe the "deep ecology" theme Matt talked about is like a lesson on how to recycle old riffs and intros Now, seriously...where does that theme fit in the concept of the album? ??? are you joking Deep ecology is literally the entire album. It's about the inherent worth of human beings being more important than their instrumental utility to an ends, and calls for a radical restructuring of society to support this ideology. Literally the entire narrative. Human life and servitude is not to be trifled with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k024er7 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 ??? are you joking Deep ecology is literally the entire album. It's about the inherent worth of human beings being more important than their instrumental utility to an ends, and calls for a radical restructuring of society to support this ideology. Literally the entire narrative. Human life and servitude is not to be trifled with. I wasn't seeing it that way, or maybe I wasn't understanding the concept of deep ecology at all...but well, thanks for clarifying it, it wasn't making any sense at all to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 I wasn't seeing it that way, or maybe I wasn't understanding the concept of deep ecology at all...but well, thanks for clarifying it, it wasn't making any sense at all to me To be fair I know it's a misnomer, the first time I heard it I thought it would be something along the lines of the lyrical content of Explorers with regards to the environment, but yeah it's actually way more specific than you'd think a broad sounding term like "deep ecology" would suggest. EDIT: It refers mainly to the environment in actuality with regards to humanity's use of it and its negligence of life, but the way I described it is how Matt seems to have gone about it, just using it within the context of humanity and its own reach within itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrMalkfredt Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Again, the itunes screenshot is totally fake. Chris says The Globalist length in a Italian interview: 12 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k024er7 Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 To be fair I know it's a misnomer, the first time I heard it I thought it would be something along the lines of the lyrical content of Explorers with regards to the environment, but yeah it's actually way more specific than you'd think a broad sounding term like "deep ecology" would suggest. Exactly, my first thoughts were also something related to environment, hence my confusion. I think that widens a bit the concept of the album and makes it actually deeper and complex. It's good to see it that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolic Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 >"official" >some guy working on iTunes >pick one Matt already said in an interview it was the same clip they used for their intros during BHAR era. Fair enough, it's the track lengths iTunes will release at least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Fair enough, it's the track lengths iTunes will release at least What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedrigall Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Fair enough, it's the track lengths iTunes will release at least Did you not see on the last page where I posted this? The same person who posted that on Reddit then posted this a few days after: http://i.imgur.com/rFechJc.png Proof - http://www.reddit.com/user/itunes_drone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolic Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Oh nevermind. I see no reason as to why they would've been so keen to take the picture down if it was complete made up bullshit. Or if he's confirmed it's fake then fine, my bad, must have missed that. EDIT: oh well I just figured he was told to take it down and then replaced it with what's official right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 Oh nevermind. I see no reason as to why they would've been so keen to take the picture down if it was complete made up bullshit. Or if he's confirmed it's fake then fine, my bad, must have missed that. EDIT: oh well I just figured he was told to take it down and then replaced it with what's official right now. There is literally nothing "official" besides the hints people are discerning from the way the album is split up on the vinyl record tracking plus the 3 track lengths on iTunes right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolic Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 There is literally nothing "official" besides the hints people are discerning from the way the album is split up on the vinyl record tracking plus the 3 track lengths on iTunes right now. With official I now meant confirmed aka the songs actually released. Still think the fact that it was taken down as more probable for it being legit than anything, unless of course the guy explicitly said he made it all up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 With official I now meant confirmed aka the songs actually released. Still think the fact that it was taken down as more probable for it being legit than anything, unless of course the guy explicitly said he made it all up. The guy had literally made an account minutes before posting that. He had no sources, then another 3 people started posting other track lengths themselves showing just how easy it is to fake it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolic Posted May 20, 2015 Share Posted May 20, 2015 The guy had literally made an account minutes before posting that. He had no sources, then another 3 people started posting other track lengths themselves showing just how easy it is to fake it I know it's easy to fake, I just found it strange he would take it down for nothing and I don't follow reddit so had no idea it had been this mess about it. Still, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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