k024er7 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Yeah there's that problem, and let's be honest, that is going to fucking happen. The song has to be reaaaally AWESOME with a catchy melody so people can sing along instead of talking, otherwise I'm not looking forward to how it will turn out... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funkadelic Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm not sure whether anyone will agree with me, as it may just be something personal, but I have found that if I am introduced to material from a band I had not previously known, I am a lot less critical about their work and accept it for what it is. However, once I know the band and they release new material, I become much more critical and look too closely at specifics rather than just enjoying the album as a whole. I have found this with Muse, but also with pretty much every other band I like and I wonder if this is why forums like this tend towards negativity? When something new is coming out, expectations are raised to impossible levels, and therefore, regardless of whether the material is better or worse than their older stuff, it will not be received as well by the established fanbase. Don't know if anyone agrees, but I think acknowledging this makes getting new stuff much more enjoyable, rather than raising expectations too high! I agree with you. I think it's particularly hard to digest new material from Muse because they've gotten increasingly OTT and don't stick to a consistent sound. Even though I'm not surprised that they try different things, it's still always jarring and takes a few listens to get used to. Although sometimes the material really is just wank. I guess that's one plus side to having The Beatles as my favourite band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesWS Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 There's an old interview somewhere in which Matt says Palestrina's Benedictus is one of his favourite pieces of music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginOfAbso Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm thinking The Handler is going to be long considering Disc 2 of the vinyl is comprised of just it and Reapers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm thinking The Handler is going to be long considering Disc 2 of the vinyl is comprised of just it and Reapers. How do you know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 How do you know? It says on the .mu shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 It says on the .mu shop Oh, I just had a look and couldn't see anything. Edit: Ah, now I do. I was looking at the Deluxe listing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LewisF Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Oh, I just had a look and couldn't see anything. When you go on the shop click on the Drones vinyl and it should be there (I should have been clearer) Edit: just noticed you've found it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrMalkfredt Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Maybe "Reapers" 5:30 / 6 min and "The Handler" 6 / 7 minutes. 14/15 minutes per side? Wiki Each side of a 12-inch LP could play for more than 20 minutes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LP_record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Maybe "Reapers" 5:30 / 6 min and "The Handler" 6 / 7 minutes. 14/15 minutes per side? Wiki i reckon maybe 5 and a half to 6, can't see it being 7 minutes long could be wrong tho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'm guessing Reapers will be around 6:15 and The Handler around 6:45. Yeah, 15 minutes per side seems about right, Side A adds up to about that give or take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedrigall Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 German review: http://www.musikexpress.de/reviews/alben/article732838/muse-drones.html It's pretty incomprehensible through Google translate :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyingAtheist98 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) German review: http://www.musikexpress.de/reviews/alben/article732838/muse-drones.html It's pretty incomprehensible through Google translate :\ The musikexpress doesn't like muse...they always write pretty bad Reviews about the band. So...this one is quite negative too. I'll translate it later. Edited May 19, 2015 by DyingAtheist98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 German review: http://www.musikexpress.de/reviews/alben/article732838/muse-drones.html It's pretty incomprehensible through Google translate :\ I don't think Oliver Gotz liked it. Edit: I know this translation is obviously wrong but I still laughed: 'Rock, prog rock itself, is the wrong way to make us lawless shredding of people out of the blue consciously.' The one thing that really pisses me off with so many Muse reviews is how they always single out Matt and never ever give any credit to Chris or Dom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyingAtheist98 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 The main Statement: Drones = Transformers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Reading these reviews has really lowered my expectations. Sounds like there's gonna be some truly awful shit on this album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyingAtheist98 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 I don't think Oliver Gotz liked it. Edit: I know this translation is obviously wrong but I still laughed: 'Rock, prog rock itself, is the wrong way to make us lawless shredding of people out of the blue consciously.' The one thing that really pisses me off with so many Muse reviews is how they always single out Matt and never ever give any credit to Chris or Dom. It basically means: Progrock is the wrong way to make People aware of the whole drones Thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 The one thing that really pisses me off with so many Muse reviews is how they always single out Matt and never ever give any credit to Chris or Dom. To be fair, most of them seem to be singling him out for his lyricism and the quite heavy-handed/patronising/niaive message of the album, which are all down to him. More credit towards Chris or Dom for decent bass or drum parts would obviously be nice though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 To be fair, most of them seem to be singling him out for his lyricism and the quite heavy-handed/patronising/niaive message of the album, which are all down to him. More credit towards Chris or Dom for decent bass or drum parts would obviously be nice though. Yeah I know, I just mean it would be nice if they acknowledged that Matt isn't propping up the entire band by himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyingAtheist98 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Reading these reviews has really lowered my expectations. Sounds like there's gonna be some truly awful shit on this album. Well but this Review says the Album is too heavy! And believe me, the musikexpress likes nothing Muse does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyingAtheist98 Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Lyrics from Revolt: Our freedom is just a loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 It basically means: Progrock is the wrong way to make People aware of the whole drones Thing. Thanks I respectfully disagree with Oliver's opinion. :LOL: 'Our freedom is just a loan' hmmm, wouldn't it have sounded better to say 'our freedom is just on loan'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamCee Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 So I log on to see 30 new pages since last night.. Anyone care to give me a brief update, please? Haven't got the mental strength for 29 pages of random BS and one page of actual information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 Anyone care to give me a brief update, please? Haven't got the mental strength for 29 pages of random BS and one page of actual information Reviews. Basically: The Handler = Big riff, AC/DC-ish, generally pretty heavy Defector = Very Queen Revolt = Big Freeze 2 Drones = A capella re-working of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight__ Posted May 19, 2015 Share Posted May 19, 2015 reviews... so far seeing different descriptions of the songs, like The Aftermath... i was excited when i read about it having bit Hendrix in there. sounds like it could be a very nice song. I think this album will end up having, Psycho, Reapers, The Handler, Defector, The Globalist, maybe The Aftermath... as ''rock'' songs. so that's not too bad? also i agree, heavy doesn't mean good. i mean, yes, Dead Inside, Mercy are bit more pop. but Dead Inside sounds sort of ''dark'' in sound. Mercy sounds most poppy i would say. It's still heavier than Starlight i would say. Also really interested in Drones.. sound really interesting to me. Revolt i have no idea, could be either terrible or great. with or without you is a nice song, but the comparisons and descriptions, like i said, seem to change in every review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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