Dee3Dee Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Why do so many people claim that Muse's last few albums are less deep? How do you define the "deepness" of an album? Personal opinion, maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareeh Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Meaningful personal lyrics. Particularly ones that convey pain, anger or anguish like in most of the first 3 albums. The type of lyrics Bellamy does best yet seems to have abandoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Meaningful personal lyrics. Particularly ones that convey pain, anger or anguish like in most of the first 3 albums. The type of lyrics Bellamy does best yet seems to have abandoned.The idea that thoughts have to be negative to be deep is so hilariously silly. That somehow negativity is more profound than positivity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Bcoz teen angst is deep. Other problems like totalitarianism or the fossil fuels are maningless in comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartianSpaghettiRider Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 But if that teenage angst revolves solely around things "I love you, you don't love me, I want to unleash my hormonal forces upon you, etc.", it tires you on the long distance and becomes mediocre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareeh Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 The idea that thoughts have to be negative to be deep is so hilariously silly. That somehow negativity is more profound than positivity. I used the word 'particularly' referring to specifically Muse Invincible is about the only one that springs to mind that is deep and is happy. You guys are calling OoS and Abso lyrics teenage angst? Okay Look at Absolution if you want to see incredibly deep lyrics that are hopeful in a gloom and doom setting, that's when Matt's writing is at a different level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Invincible is about the only one that springs to mind that is deep and is happy. Invincible and Bliss are probably the only completely happy Muse songs. They should play them every night to pump the crowds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Bliss isn't even a happy song, tbh. It's about the singer envying someone else who is happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareeh Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Invincible and Bliss are probably the only completely happy Muse songs. They should play them every night to pump the crowds. Bliss is more about aspiring to be someone who is "better" than you but in comparison to other Muse songs of that era, yeah it's slightly more uplifting. The two happiest Muse songs are covers, and one of them is meh live and the other never gets played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter. Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I'd say panic station is quite happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareeh Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I forgot how deep Panic Station was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter. Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 bruh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 What was the other happy cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareeh Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 What was the other happy cover? Can't Take My Eyes Off You. Maybe happy isn't the word but it's a positive song for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Can't Take My Eyes Off You. Maybe happy isn't the word but it's a positive song for sure. I forgot about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Why do so many people claim that Muse's last few albums are less deep? How do you define the "deepness" of an album? Something to do with the ratio of lyrics inspired by real-world events to those by fictional characters, countries that don't exist and extinction events that will never happen. I forgot how deep Panic Station was You are now aware that Panic Station's lyrics are a continuation of B&H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilfred Desert Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Something to do with the ratio of lyrics inspired by real-world events to those by fictional characters, countries that don't exist and extinction events that will never happen. You are now aware that Panic Station's lyrics are a continuation of B&H. Well, at least these are the sources of inspiration for Bellamy. We might as well respect that. I personally don't care whether be it fictional characters/ events or not as long as it's performed by Muse - the quality of their music remains to be very high. FWIW, my favorites by Muse are their saddest and moodiest songs - one of them (a single teardrop is almost there) Hyper Chondriac Music has never even been played live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Something to do with the ratio of lyrics inspired by real-world events to those by fictional characters, countries that don't exist and extinction events that will never happen. Our planet suffered 5 big extinction events (known to date). So is not that rare. But yeah, a lot of teens and post teens can relate more with lyrics in this style: My big breasted blonde girlfriend left me / life is so cruel / i cannot resist it / (enter generic guitar solo) And i am talking about music in general, not Muse, Origin and Abso were great, but that doesn't make TR or T2L hollow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Our planet suffered 5 big extinction events (known to date). And Muse songs have not referenced events in the vein of those. My big breasted blonde girlfriend left me / life is so cruel / i cannot resist it / (enter generic guitar solo) This is basically Dead Inside minus the big breasted part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechagodzilla Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 And Muse songs have not referenced events in the vein of those. Confirmed: Album 8 is a heavy and theatrical concept album about the extinction of dinosaurs and the early rise of man. The latter half of the album explores how fossil fuels are killing the planet and how man rely on the remains of extinct creatures in order to advance technologically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Confirmed: Album 8 is a heavy and theatrical concept album about the extinction of dinosaurs and the early rise of man. The latter half of the album explores how fossil fuels are killing the planet and how man rely on the remains of extinct creatures in order to advance technologically. Pretty sure that was what a fake "leak" of LP7's title and tracklisting suggested, and Matt tweeted about it dismissing it as fake a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechagodzilla Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 When was this? What a shame, I'd love a Muse album about dinosaurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I assume that was supposed to be sarcastic about B&H. Unless I'm missing something, and that song isn't just one big self-help pep talk with amazing music. This is basically Dead Inside minus the big breasted part. And now I have wine in my sinus cavity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 When was this? What a shame, I'd love a Muse album about dinosaurs. It was called "The Legend of Mankind" and the rumor started with an obviously fake post by a website http://www.bubblews.com or something. I can't find any cached images of the page to show you how ridiculous it was but it got the board riled up a little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Our planet suffered 5 big extinction events (known to date). So is not that rare. But yeah, a lot of teens and post teens can relate more with lyrics in this style: We are currently in the sixth one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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