Claudia O Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Seems to be most people on this board And mocking about no news from Muse to talk about, writing silly stuff, I got used to it and Play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandOmegaBoss Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I mean, I don't really care if u didn't like the last two albums and have no faith whatsoever in Drones or Muse, just find it funny if you're thinking that way and you're very active here, seems like some people don't have anything better to do with their life I kinda got nothing better to do at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claudia O Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I kinda got nothing better to do at the moment... You come here every day and look out for my "interesting" posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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serpentsatellite Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 There's more to talk about when you're criticizing something, a lot of the time, and some people just naturally find it easier to criticize than to discuss why they like something. It would be nice if more people who were positive about things started or continued discussions, but those ones shut down a lot quicker. Not saying everyone has to love everything, I actively dislike several Muse songs myself, but the people who are constantly bitching that the band is "utter shit" or hasn't been good since '04, do confuse me. I mean... I don't think I could hold a flame for a good album over 10 years of apparent disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 But almost all the people that think Muse have been irredeemable in recent years just spend their time in Banter and only come here to make shitty attempts at humor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 There's been a few that have made accounts in 2015 only to say how shit Muse has been for the last decade, or that this is "their last chance." I'd probably have moved on and taken up knitting, or something, by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jangdiin Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 There's more to talk about when you're criticizing something, a lot of the time, and some people just naturally find it easier to criticize than to discuss why they like something. It would be nice if more people who were positive about things started or continued discussions, but those ones shut down a lot quicker. Not saying everyone has to love everything, I actively dislike several Muse songs myself, but the people who are constantly bitching that the band is "utter shit" or hasn't been good since '04, do confuse me. I mean... I don't think I could hold a flame for a good album over 10 years of apparent disappointment. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Anyways, I still can't tell if Reapers just doesn't come across well live (but then why play it?) or over the non-pro recordings we get... but it seems incredibly disjointed and I don't really feel like that's an issue Muse has really had to much extent, except when they cram 'covers' into their songs like IBTY. I also just can't figure out if I'm so biased against the "classic rock vibe" that that's why I'm not feeling this song so far. I'm trying to commit to not listening to it again until release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jangdiin Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I can honestly say I fucking love Reapers. I hope I don't get too disappointed by the studio version, my only worry. Also I didn't like Psycho or Dead Inside on first 3 listens, love both now, not taking Psycho so seriously though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 There's been a few that have made accounts in 2015 only to say how shit Muse has been for the last decade, or that this is "their last chance." And they're never taken seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozenbanana Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I can honestly say I fucking love Reapers. I hope I don't get too disappointed by the studio version, my only worry. Also I didn't like Psycho or Dead Inside on first 3 listens, love both now, not taking Psycho so seriously though. This this this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogles. Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Was Psycho ever supposed to be taken entirely seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodius Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I can honestly say I fucking love Reapers. I hope I don't get too disappointed by the studio version, my only worry. Also I didn't like Psycho or Dead Inside on first 3 listens, love both now, not taking Psycho so seriously though. True. It took me a few listens to like Dead Inside, same with Psycho, but Reapers...holy shit those guitar solos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I can honestly say I fucking love Reapers. I hope I don't get too disappointed by the studio version, my only worry. Also I didn't like Psycho or Dead Inside on first 3 listens, love both now, not taking Psycho so seriously though. Interestingly, I was pretty disappointed with how not-serious I felt Psycho was, at first, and would have put it in a category with Survival... but I've changed my opinion quite a bit since. I feel like I love parts of Reapers; probably the majority of the song, but I don't "get" how they work together. Was Psycho ever supposed to be taken entirely seriously? You would think so... at least to an extent. Doesn't mean it can't be a bit OTT, but it *is* a serious topic. That's the original issue I had with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) Anyways, I still can't tell if Reapers just doesn't come across well live (but then why play it?) or over the non-pro recordings we get... but it seems incredibly disjointed and I don't really feel like that's an issue Muse has really had to much extent, except when they cram 'covers' into their songs like IBTY. I also just can't figure out if I'm so biased against the "classic rock vibe" that that's why I'm not feeling this song so far. I'm trying to commit to not listening to it again until release. I really think it's the guitar tone that makes the classic rock vibe stand out more. I've completely warmed up to the song now, and to be quite honest the only part of the song that gave me that vibe anyway was the bit after the main riff during the chorus. The tone during that part just lacks a lot of punch, and I do think tone makes a big difference because take SMBH for example, the variations in tone that Matt has chosen can really affect the character of how that song comes off live. Interestingly, I was pretty disappointed with how not-serious I felt Psycho was, at first, and would have put it in a category with Survival... but I've changed my opinion quite a bit since. I feel like I love parts of Reapers; probably the majority of the song, but I don't "get" how they work together. I used to think the same about Reapers being disjointed, but I realized that sonically it might be trying to express a mix of emotions through each section, granted the guy is being brainwashed so the verses show stress/tension, while the choruses show a kind of pleasure with what is being executed (due to the brainwashing). Also, I still think the hate for Survival is ridiculous since it's a great song, I would even say it would fit well (perhaps maybe without the choirs so that it would be more streamlined sonically) in running order right after Psycho. Edited April 12, 2015 by jonisdead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Oh so you say that it sounds disjointed on purpose because the character may be brainwashed? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Oh so you say that it sounds disjointed on purpose because the character may be brainwashed? lol can't we go one damn page without some stupid criticism being flung around? I said I initially found it to be disjointed but I no longer do. The juxtaposing parts evoke different moods that make sense in a narrative format. That enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodNeverPaid Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Love Reapers so far... Almost everything is just pure excellence. One of the few things that puts me off is Dom's drumming. I don't know if many have felt the same but I feel like the drumming on this track is very far from what we've seen Dom do before. The verse is sort of weird with no bass drum on the on-beats and the pattern during the riff and "drones!" parts along with the solo just feel a bit bland and empty. The last chorus is fine but the first and second could do with a bit more diversity and power I feel... I think Mutt Lange perhaps went a bit overboard with the AC-DC style on the drums... As a metal-fan I like my drums how I like my women - voluminous. Otherwise, this song is probably going to be one of my favorites... Calling it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I'm definitely very curious to hear the studio version, and it'll probably be hard for me not to just skip right to it when I get ahold of the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I feel like Reapers flows pretty well, to be honest. With the obvious exception being that key change in the solo which feels very tacked on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Oh so you say that it sounds disjointed on purpose because the character may be brainwashed? lol I quite like that idea actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Someone should try tweeting the band about what the lyrics in the choruses are and maybe the vocoder parts as well, if they haven't already. I would but I don't have Twitter. Probably won't yield any results even on the off-chance that one of them reads it but, meh, it'd be worth a try I guess. It's doing my head in trying to work out those bloody choruses Just realised I should've asked Matt when I had the chance, could've asked him about the outro as well but I guess I wasn't really thinking at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 can't we go one damn page without some stupid criticism being flung around? I said I initially found it to be disjointed but I no longer do. The juxtaposing parts evoke different moods that make sense in a narrative format. That enough for you? I don't think Muse is that deep anymore lol. Usually there are ways to read into a song other than at face value but not in the case of Muse's last 2 (possibly 3) albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilfred Desert Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I don't think Muse is that deep anymore lol. Usually there are ways to read into a song other than at face value but not in the case of Muse's last 2 (possibly 3) albums. Why do so many people claim that Muse's last few albums are less deep? How do you define the "deepness" of an album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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