spark_ Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 (edited) So I was watching this for no apparent reason, and... (idk why embed doesn't work) I don't really have anything to say about it other than recognition and that I found it mildly interesting. Edited June 28, 2015 by spark_ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
defector Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 So I was watching this for no apparent reason, and... (idk why embed doesn't work) I don't really have anything to say about it other than recognition and that I found it mildly interesting. nice find! incredible that it's been hanging around for five years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spark_ Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I suppose that only adds to the feeling that this is very much a patchwork quilt of a song, though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 I suppose that only adds to the feeling that this is very much a patchwork quilt of a song, though... Psycho has been around much, much longer, and that's far from a patchwork. I mean, shit, it's basically just that one old riff with swears. Anyways, there's been a lot of really great Muse songs that have been around in bits and pieces for ages. I get why people don't like TG, I don't get why people are always looking for justifications for not liking it. I mean, sometimes something just doesn't appeal to you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spark_ Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Huh? I like the song. But the fact that one of the two bits that I thought was genuinely new and written specifically for the song has been around for years doesn't exactly do anything to dampen the feeling that this song has been stitched together from various bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 What part are you guys talking about? That bit of Matt playing before Resistance is a classical piece already. It is Adagio in G minor arranged on guitar with whatever effect he has going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Here's a better version of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rImzrj6xoLE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 The similarities are reinforced by the fact Resistance, Citizen Erased and The Globalist all share the same chord progression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted June 28, 2015 Share Posted June 28, 2015 Yeah but what part of The Globalist are people saying has been around for "5+" (really 9 if you look at the 2006 video I posted) by using an example of Matt playing a classical piece arranged for guitar/kaosspad/whatever the weird loopy effect in the 2010 video is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleximo Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Chopin, Rachmaninoff and Mozart re-used melodies from older pieces into new ones and had melodies lying around for decades before using them in published compositions. Don't see anything wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I have absolutely no problem with the piano cover at the end, and honestly the score piece at the beginning worked better than I thought it would. I am weirdly happy I knew about it beforehand, though, so I don't rave about the great Muse composition and get embarrassed by someone irl. I don't know why people would be upset about Muse using pieces they themselves composed years ago, either. It doesn't lessen the emotional impact or the sincerity of the song, imo. I have been wondering if there was a thematic choice for the Elgar piece, because iirc, Nimrod was a great hunter who became a tyrant to his people and caused its collapse (or created the Tower of Babel, in religious texts.) But then I figure Matt probably just heard it at the Olympics, or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter. Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 using your older material that you haven't included in a song yet is fine, making covers however raises the question wether you had run out of your own ideas. imo "remaking" a piece of music < making your own, new music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H4N5 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Nimrod is described as being a great hunter. I don't think it's a coincidence that Matt sings about exactly that. But I wouldn't be surprised if he first decided that he wanted to use the piece, and only later found out that he could fit it in thematically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleximo Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I might be imagining it, but pretty i heard somewhere globalist was written for 2nd law but they just couldnt figure it out so the kept it for this album... may be totally wrong about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 They've specifically talked about the writing process for the song, so I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleximo Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 They've specifically talked about the writing process for the song, so I doubt it. Not sure what im confusing it with in that case:stunned: Sure its been around a long time evidentally and we all know matt is a compulsive bullshitter :L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogles. Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Not sure what im confusing it with in that case:stunned: Sure its been around a long time evidentally and we all know matt is a compulsive bullshitter :L Probably Psycho, that riff has been around for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleximo Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Probably Psycho, that riff has been around for years. Nah definately not that, they played part of the globalist at glastonbury in 2010, maybe im confusing it with something else no idea lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogles. Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Nah definately not that, they played part of the globalist at glastonbury in 2010, maybe im confusing it with something else no idea lol You're thinking of the alternative riff on Citizen Erased at Glastonbury 2004 which eventually became Supremacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I'm pretty sure he's talking about this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleximo Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 You're thinking of the alternative riff on Citizen Erased at Glastonbury 2004 which eventually became Supremacy. dont think so someone posted a video a few pages back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic Syndrome Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I can't stop being frustrated about that final part of the song, I always wish for something else to happen after the heavy part. Eternally pissed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleximo Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 maybe it wasnt glasto. Gimme a bit, iPhone is slow as anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleximo Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 wont load on my phone but i think this is it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 maybe it wasnt glasto. Gimme a bit, iPhone is slow as anything I just linked it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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