GrandOmegaBoss Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 You're completely right, especially since this is the album opener. The song starts out with the electronic voice so that probably put a lot of people off, but there's no denying the last 2 minutes of this song are rockin' as all hell. As an amendment, I'd like to add that I still think this is a kind of transition track between TR/T2L era and Drones, like they made it sound like a stripped down version of something that could appear on T2L and used it as the opener and lead single to tease/hint like the beginning of New Born Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoledman Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 As an amendment, I'd like to add that I still think this is a kind of transition track between TR/T2L era and Drones, like they made it sound like a stripped down version of something that could appear on T2L and used it as the opener and lead single to tease/hint like the beginning of New Born The problem with that is New Born kicks butt and this stuff doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Copeland- Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 As an amendment, I'd like to add that I still think this is a kind of transition track between TR/T2L era and Drones, like they made it sound like a stripped down version of something that could appear on T2L and used it as the opener and lead single to tease/hint like the beginning of New Born I really like that idea! I couldn't really see Dead Inside on T2L but as a transition I could, especially with how it switches in the middle. Really gives a sense of transitioning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlugInYorkie Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 "On the outside I'm the greatest guy.." So much cringe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 "On the outside I'm the greatest guy.." So much cringe. It's a pretty obvious reference to either how Matt saw himself or more likely how Kate viewed/views him now objectively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlugInYorkie Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 It's a pretty obvious reference to either how Matt saw himself or more likely how Kate viewed/views him now objectively Possibly, but it's such an awful bit of lyric writing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Copeland- Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Possibly, but it's such an awful bit of lyric writing! To be fair, I don't think anything can top "brainwashing our children to be mean". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandOmegaBoss Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 To be fair, I don't think anything can top "brainwashing our children to be mean". Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonisdead Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Possibly, but it's such an awful bit of lyric writing! Meh, I see it as honest. I get what he means, people look at you a certain way when you feel the total opposite inside. Comes off as corny but when you realize it's honest then it should at least make sense rather than being cringy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdrunner95 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 "On the outside I'm the greatest guy.." So much cringe. Really? I liked that lyric. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjartrod Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 (edited) Really? I liked that lyric. I do too. That choice of words, it definitely strikes me as something he could have heard or read about himself. As in, how he'd be viewed in general, rather than by someone in specific. It's the whole point of the lyrics, really. That what someone shows or looks to the others isn't exactly what they are like inside. She's "ablaze and alive" but dead inside; in the end he's "the greatest guy" but also dead inside. Basically, empty shells. Edited April 12, 2015 by mjartrod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandOmegaBoss Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I do too. That choice of words, it definitely strikes me as something he could have heard or read about himself. As in, how he'd be viewed in general, rather than by someone in specific. It's the whole point of the lyrics, really. That what someone shows or looks to the others isn't exactly what they are like inside. She's "ablaze and alive" but dead inside; in the end he's "the greatest guy" but also dead inside. Basically, empty shells. It's a lot more honest than many of his other more grandiose lyrics which get lost in their themes and come out as archetypes, but this, though not the most eloquent he's been at least has a point and some depth. At least it's better than "birth squeeze". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smoledman Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 It's a lot more honest than many of his other more grandiose lyrics which get lost in their themes and come out as archetypes, but this, though not the most eloquent he's been at least has a point and some depth. At least it's better than "birth squeeze". "birth squeeze" was totally original. Nobody ever used that lyric before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogles. Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 "birth squeeze" was totally original. Nobody ever used that lyric before. Doesn't change the fact that its pretty fucking terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim59 Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Doesn't change the fact that its pretty fucking terrible. Shut up it's amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Greatest guy / dead inside is the best two lines in the song. It's about juxtaposition. The whole song builds to that moment - it's basically the whole song in a nutshell, the moment the protagonist loses all hope and starts to succumb to indoctrination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Yeah but "greatest guy" is a bad line in itself. So unimaginative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Greatest guy / dead inside is the best two lines in the song. It's about juxtaposition. The whole song builds to that moment - it's basically the whole song in a nutshell, the moment the protagonist loses all hope and starts to succumb to indoctrination. It sounds like shit though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Sounds fine to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frozenbanana Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 It's not a great line, but I love the way he sings "ON THE OUTSIDE", it's so hammy and dramatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 It suffers from the same problem as the "brainwashing our children to be mean". The meaning might be good, but the poor choice of words brings it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter. Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 It suffers from the same problem as the "brainwashing our children to be mean". The meaning might be good, but the poor choice of words brings it down. yöp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 Yeah but "greatest guy" is a bad line in itself. So unimaginative. It's from the perspective of a normal bloke, though, that is a phrase that such a person would use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 It's from the perspective of a normal bloke, though, that is a phrase that such a person would use. Oh that changes everything. Best lyric of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted April 12, 2015 Share Posted April 12, 2015 I do too. That choice of words, it definitely strikes me as something he could have heard or read about himself. As in, how he'd be viewed in general, rather than by someone in specific. It's the whole point of the lyrics, really. That what someone shows or looks to the others isn't exactly what they are like inside. She's "ablaze and alive" but dead inside; in the end he's "the greatest guy" but also dead inside. Basically, empty shells. Pretty much. It's the definition Matt gave of the concept of the psycho - someone who seems like a great person, but who lacks emotion and empathy and is ultimately manipulative. It's got nothing to do with how the female character in the song views him, because she's already at that state, and doesn't really "see" him at all. "birth squeeze" was totally original. Nobody ever used that lyric before. And it should have stayed that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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