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Uhh Sunburn :happy:. And Panic Station... not to fussed about that one.

 

Oh, I was just going off this tweet. Looking back, I guess it doesn't explicitly say that Tom said the Assassin part. Hard to tell if it was hinted at or just an assumption from the 'new visuals' thing.[/Quote]

 

I feel like that was just an assumption.

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I thought it was universally accepted that panic station is great?

 

Can't say I've really seen anyone say anything bad about it, probably because it's just a really funky cool ass song :LOL:

 

I think Panic Station was good on album, not great, but fun.

Live it just felt... Neutral, if that makes sense. Not terrible, but not exciting, either. Just sort of there. Felt that way about nearly all of the T2L tracks live, sadly. They werent terribly engaging, and i liked them better on album.

 

Tour still managed to have more energy and life than this one, though...

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Panic Station was fun live at Shepherd's Bush, but at the O2 felt weirdly placed, and the visuals were more interesting at the Emirates. Still, it was better live than Follow Me or Unsustainable.

 

I'm on the fence on the rotation - I like the idea of a genuine unpredictability for certain songs, but equally dread the idea of winding up with the shit end of the stick. Though tonight's setlist would not be objectionable, barring the obvious length issue.

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Just came back from a Glen Hansard gig. 11 piece band played for two hours and a half none stop and the sound mix was the best I've heard in any gig I've ever been to.

 

OT: #longersetforlondon

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I mean, songs like Assassin and Showbiz can be tricky so as much as it's still shitty to go back on them without saying anything, it's at least somewhat understandable. There's no excuse for backing out of Defector though, it's piss easy.

 

For some reason, it surprises me that this is so much a thing. Are Muse's own songs really so difficult for they themselves to play? I understand that an aging vocalist can't always hit the high notes that he/she once did and that there is a need to avoid shredding one's vocal cords over the course of a tour. Still, it seems that there are ample adjustments that can be made with changing the key and pacing the set appropriately to alleviate the problem. It's not like anybody is expecting Matt to sing Showbiz, Micro Cuts, Take a Bow and Survival back-to-back every night. (Although that would be quite awesome.)

 

Ignoring the touring acts that rely on backing tracks and back-up singers to flesh out the vocals, there are enough bands who play much longer sets than Muse seemingly without so much consideration about how difficult it is to perform their own songs. Many bands play 25-30 career-spanning songs per night (minus all the jams and prerecorded playback) without much regard to "difficulty".

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Many bands play 25-30 career-spanning songs per night (minus all the jams and prerecorded playback) without much regard to "difficulty".

 

I dunno... I can't think of quite that many who do 25-30 a night. Springstein, Pearl Jam, U2, Foo Fighters on Dave's birthday last year... I mean, there are definitely some bands, but I feel like concerts in general have gotten acceptably shorter. Gone are the days of consistent 3 hr rock shows.

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Speaking of length, were we a song short tonight? Or was there something between Madness and JFK that I didn't hear about?

 

Edit: Nvm, didn't know about Map.

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Yep, was nice to see that he can still sound great for Sunburn despite his voice being in patchy form :happy:

 

 

 

pls let this mean it's sticking around for london

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Sunburn :love: :love: :love:

 

Hopefully the rotation stays at Eurasia/AP/Sunburn and FG doesn't come rearing its ugly head again.

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I had a dream recently that I went to a Muse show that opened with Revolt followed by SMBH. They did however go on to play Showbiz, Shine, Stockholm, and The Small Print :LOL: If only.

 

Anyway. Very happy to see Sunburn! :awesome: Bit more indifferent to Panic Station but I'm all for more rotation!

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So, realistically, I could walk away from my 5 gigs having seen Revolt, Stockholm, The Globalist, AP, Sunburn, Map, PIB, Bliss, TAB, CE and Reapers. That's a batch of songs I'd be pretty happy with tbh, 4 or 5 new ones ain't bad.

 

Defector or Assassin or showbiz would make it really killer though.

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I dunno... I can't think of quite that many who do 25-30 a night. Springstein, Pearl Jam, U2, Foo Fighters on Dave's birthday last year... I mean, there are definitely some bands, but I feel like concerts in general have gotten acceptably shorter. Gone are the days of consistent 3 hr rock shows.
Green Day, The Cure and Kaizers Orchestra are a few more.

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Let's close the thread off with numbers. I got a count up of the songs played through all the US gigs (this includes small venues and promotional gigs). There's also some things like Prelude not being counted for some gigs but no one cares about that.

 

21 concerts.

 

Showbiz:

 

Origin of Symmetry:

2 New Born

3 Bliss

1 Hyper Music

8 Plug In Baby

3 Citizen Erased

4 Feeling Good

 

Absolution:

10 Apocalypse Please

18 Time Is Running Out

2 Stockholm Syndrome

20 Hysteria

 

Black Holes & Revelations:

20 Starlight

21 Supermassive Black Hole

8 Map of the Problematique

1 Assassin

21 Knights of Cydonia

 

The Resistance:

21 Uprising

15 Resistance

13 Undisclosed Desires

4 United States of Eurasia

 

The 2nd Law:

18 Madness

6 Prelude

2 Animals

16 The 2nd Law: Isolated System

 

Drones:

21 Dead Inside

2 [Drill Sergeant]

21 Psycho

18 Mercy

18 Reapers

17 The Handler

17 [JFK]

7 Revolt

17 The Globalist

29 [Drones]

 

Other:

1 The Groove

 

And here's the European dates so far. Again, this includes the Psycho Tour and festivals. I'll do more specifics like the arena tour only or whatever else someone wants later.

 

45 concerts.

 

Showbiz:

1 Sunburn

1 Muscle Museum

5 Uno

 

Origin of Symmetry:

6 New Born

15 Bliss

3 Hyper Music

34 Plug In Baby

11 Citizen Erased

4 Micro Cuts

 

Absolution:

25 Apocalypse Please

44 Time Is Running Out

27 Stockholm Syndrome

38 Hysteria

1 Blackout

1 Butterflies & Hurricanes

 

Black Holes & Revelations:

9 Take A Bow

43 Starlight

45 Supermassive Black Hole

10 Map of the Problematique

2 Assassin

45 Knights of Cydonia

 

The Resistance:

45 Uprising

11 Resistance

5 Undisclosed Desires

5 United States of Eurasia

2 Unnatural Selection

 

The 2nd Law:

12 Supremacy

27 Madness

1 Panic Station

12 Prelude

7 Animals

14 The 2nd Law: Isolated System

 

Drones:

39 Dead Inside

2 [Drill Sergeant]

45 Psycho

39 Mercy

39 Reapers

33 The Handler

27 [JFK]

1 Defector

4 Revolt

14 The Globalist

26 [Drones]

 

Other:

7 Agitated

2 Dead Star

3 Fury

2 Futurism

3 The Groove

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I dunno... I can't think of quite that many who do 25-30 a night. Springstein, Pearl Jam, U2, Foo Fighters on Dave's birthday last year... I mean, there are definitely some bands, but I feel like concerts in general have gotten acceptably shorter. Gone are the days of consistent 3 hr rock shows.

 

To be fair, there aren't that many arena/stadium rock bands out there anymore so pretty much every single band listed is on Muse's "tier".

 

Nine Inch Nails plays 22-25ish songs generally.

http://www.setlist.fm/stats/average-setlist/nine-inch-nails-1bd6a5bc.html?tour=Tension+2013

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Green Day, The Cure and Kaizers Orchestra are a few more.

 

To be fair aren't most of Green Day and the Cure's songs 2-3 minutes long?

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