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I was there for the Dallas gig last night and it was phenomenal. Yes no opening act, no drones and they were late but the performance was def better than Houston seeing as they didn't actually have any instrument malfunctions. Matt's voice sounded SOOOO good live in Dallas. There were a few songs though where his voice got muffled so they need to work on the sound levels for his vocals in some spots. Totally made my year that they played CE!!! Never thought they'd play that in my home town. The Globalist was a standout for me as was Revolt surprisingly. Even though the crowds here in America suck (except for about 10% of each gig who are awesome) most of the people around me LOVED the new songs. Especially Psycho/Reapers and The Handler. Loved the stage. Its different being in the middle as it spreads the crowd out more which wouldn't be a problem in most places but here in America to many people like to stand and stare and do nothing as they listen to the music. Nothing wrong with that but just do it up in the stands. But I totally loved the stage setup mainly because the band is a lot closer to everybody and there more easily seen. Only thing regarding the stage that i'm not so sure about were the big video sheet things. Really cool during the Handler and The Globalist but other times kind of weak.

 

The setlist was great in one part (new songs totally rocked, CE blew me away) and totally average in another (Madness, Uprising, UD, Starlight, SMBH etc.) I didn't expect rarities in Dallas but I did expect them to play some more prog numbers with the new songs like New Born, B&H, Unnatural Selection etc. But overall the concert was the best i've ever been too and it definitely beat Muse's last two concerts here despite all of the issues. Just build the stage on time, fix some of the sound levels and get the drones working and I truly feel that this tour will go down as the best of Muse's career thus far. Hopefully they get it all in order cause they've never sounded better live as a band.

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Having 2 or 3 stages & double the crew like U2 can only help so much in a back-to-back situation.

If there is an event at any venue the night before, Muse crew will have to wait till that other event is done & loaded out to start their 15-hour setup. That is the bigger problem.

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I suppose I don't have to drive overnight from Phoenix to Vegas, also Vegas/SD are practically guaranteed best gigs of the tour now.

 

Sucks for anyone that took off work for this though.

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Or they can just accept that they're being over ambitious and that they can provide a great show without that stuff.

 

Well they could, not so sure anymore. (For me at least)

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3-4 hours of unobstructed / unimpeded travel time to another city.

 

Oakland - San Diego is at least 9 hours (and that's not at a truck's speed). So I don't know how that was ever physically possible without freight helicopters.

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Or they can just accept that they're being over ambitious and that they can provide a great show without that stuff.

 

Well they could, not so sure anymore. (For me at least)

 

:yesey:

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What bullshit. I just cannot believe they didn't know this would be an issue.

 

I feel really pissy about that "we're sure it'll be worth it once you see the tour!" bit in the announcement, too.

I'm sure the people who bought non-refundable airline tickets and hotel reservations, used their paid vacation to take time off of work, will really be thrilled.

And since they were doing such a micro-tour of the US in the first place, a lot of people were in that boat this time. :(

 

I wish they would address Detroit/Chicago and Philly/DC right now, as either "going on as scheduled" or no, for those needing to make reservations soon.

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^Me too. I just tweeted them. Chicago - Detroit is comparable to Phoenix - Vegas, so if they don't feel they can do that, I don't see how the other is possible then either.

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Thanks for doing that; maybe they need a reminder that people are already screwed because this is outside the time frame a lot of places let you reschedule flights and stuff (if they let you at all, that is.)

Most won't let you change after 24-48 hours before the flight.

 

It would be a pretty big kick to the nads if they waited until a day before and cancelled those other two gigs, when they knew all along.

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And honestly, they probably spent the last few days desperately scrambling to reschedule these two before announcing.

 

Would assume they'll announce the other two when they're booked, but they really should just let us know and say tba on the reschedule.

 

If we were assuming the piecemeal announcements were because it takes so long to book, that really doesn't seem to be the case now.

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Oakland - San Diego is at least 9 hours (and that's not at a truck's speed). So I don't know how that was ever physically possible without freight helicopters.

 

yeah, i was just alluding to the fact most of the originally-scheduled back-to-backs were about 3 to 4 hrs apart.

 

no way on god's green earth could they even dream of doing oakland & SD on successive evenings.

 

What bullshit. I just cannot believe they didn't know this would be an issue.

 

I feel really pissy about that "we're sure it'll be worth it once you see the tour!" bit in the announcement, too.

I'm sure the people who bought non-refundable airline tickets and hotel reservations, used their paid vacation to take time off of work, will really be thrilled.

And since they were doing such a micro-tour of the US in the first place, a lot of people were in that boat this time. :(

 

I wish they would address Detroit/Chicago and Philly/DC right now, as either "going on as scheduled" or no, for those needing to make reservations soon.

 

And honestly, they probably spent the last few days desperately scrambling to reschedule these two before announcing.

 

Would assume they'll announce the other two when they're booked, but they really should just let us know and say tba on the reschedule.

 

If we were assuming the piecemeal announcements were because it takes so long to book, that really doesn't seem to be the case now.

 

it appears that no acts on nights prior to portland, detroit, or D.C. will pose a problem with load in. but even as is, the schedule of getting everything up in time teeters on impossible, as i've noted previously. if they don't reschedule those three shows, it will be, at a minimum: no sleep for the crew...and any delay of any kind, whether on load out or during the trip from one city to the next, will almost assuredly result in either a delayed start...or missing production elements...or both.

 

tbh, if they decide to press on for those three shows with the current dates, it's a roll of the dice. a shitty catch-22: reschedule the show entirely...or force the crew into chugging some caffeine pills...and pray, haha.

 

in the end, it all boils down primarily to the fact that everyone simply goofed on nailing down the exact (or a damn good ballpark figure) amount of time it takes to suspend all that rigging and poop in the air.

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It seems like the more times the crew assembles the stage the easier/quicker it's going to be. So maybe they can find ways to speed up the process as the tour goes on, or - egad - cut out some of the unnecessary frills to save time.

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I am scared. I drove from Oklahoma City to Dallas and didn't get back home until 4:30 am. The show seemed rushed. No encore, they just played straight through. No drones either. Next week I am flying to Portland to see my 13th show. The distance from Seattle to PDX is about the same as Houston to Dallas. If they reschedule I am screwed. Non-refundable air fare, for starters.

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It can be fun live if it's not played half-step down.

 

Other than the notes being played I don't see how it makes a difference....

 

That black glitter guitar used in Dead Inside is gorgeous, glad to see he played the guitar parts too

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"The notes being played" seem rather important in a song...

 

The videos of Revolt make it seem less lively, and honestly not as much fun. I don't feel that from the other stuff they've stepped down.

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"The notes being played" seem rather important in a song...

 

The videos of Revolt make it seem less lively, and honestly not as much fun. I don't feel that from the other stuff they've stepped down.

 

Not really.. Songs have to be transposed for singers all the time. In my experience of playing with various singers i've seen singers transpose songs up or down as far as a step and a half and the 'height' of the notes is literally the only difference in sound. Revolt is a hard song to sing with not much breathing room so Matt concentrating on hitting the right notes + him and Chris standing facing away from the crowd probably have a lot more to do with that than the key change

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What bullshit. I just cannot believe they didn't know this would be an issue.

 

I feel really pissy about that "we're sure it'll be worth it once you see the tour!" bit in the announcement, too.

I'm sure the people who bought non-refundable airline tickets and hotel reservations, used their paid vacation to take time off of work, will really be thrilled.

And since they were doing such a micro-tour of the US in the first place, a lot of people were in that boat this time. :(

 

I wish they would address Detroit/Chicago and Philly/DC right now, as either "going on as scheduled" or no, for those needing to make reservations soon.

 

The five people who reserved hotels will be super pissed.

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Sorry I have empathy for people who are out tons of money, even if they aren't the majority.

 

I feel very bad for everyone who lost hundreds or thousands of dollars in flights, some of whom have already flown in, and many for who this was too short notice to cancel.

 

Sure, shit does happen, but this really feels like shit that could have been avoided.

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The five people who reserved hotels will be super pissed.

 

I know more than 5 people personally who were traveling for the gig. So I'm fairly certain the actual number of people who made travel plans is much higher.

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