Hat Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Are we still going on about lyrics? Muse's lyrics have always been tacky. I thought we had all agreed this. Hence: Somehow I don't trust Matt to actually deal with stuff in an articulate and creative manner in his lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomesickSubterranean Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think the only Muse lyrics I actively dislike are Survival and Big Freeze's. Otherwise I can tolerate everything else, I don't really go to Muse for a serious listen anyways! Very excited for Psycho tomorrow. I'll have to wait a whole hour and a half to hear it though :'( I wonder if we'll get track lengths on iTunes tomorrow. Would be interesting if there's gonna be any 6+ minute long songs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CatchHellBlues Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Are we still going on about lyrics? Muse's lyrics have always been tacky. I thought we had all agreed this. Hoodoo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Shitty lyrics are okay when it's about nonsense. But if he's actually trying to make a point, it becomes really awkward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted March 11, 2015 Author Share Posted March 11, 2015 Matt should just stick to writing music and hire Peter Silberman as his lyric ghostwriter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Shitty lyrics are okay when it's about nonsense. But if he's actually trying to make a point, it becomes really awkward. This. I find most of Matt's attempts at thematic or political lyrics deeply cringeworthy. He just doesn't have the slight of hand of other lyricists. Fortunately, he more than makes up with it in terms of musicianship. Hence, I'm sure some stonking riffery on this album will more than paper over any cracks in the lyrics. So long as there are no more fucking clouds of gas . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylb88 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Anyone curious about the album pre-order options? Wonder what the deluxe version will come included with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockertae Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Are we still going on about lyrics? Muse's lyrics have always been tacky. I thought we had all agreed this. My girlfriend's "favourite" has always been "making my heart feel sore, cause it's good". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirthas Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Matt is great in crazy/meaningless lyrics, not in coherent ones Still, I think about Ruled by Secrecy and I hope this album will be "written" like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeirdF Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Yeah but as Simon said it's kinda going to be more noticeable if they're shit this time. And I totally expect them to be. I mean, Lee Sayer likes them. And Matt described the theme with "The world is run by Drones utilizing Drones to turn us all into Drones.". If this is Muse's 3rd, 2nd or 1st best album musically, and it's ruined by shitty lyrics... That will be unbelievably disappointing. I don't need them to be good lyrics to enjoy a song, but if they're so awkward and cringey that they're distracting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Actually, I think I'm being a touch harsh - Ruled By Secrecy, for instance, has great lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Shitty lyrics are okay when it's about nonsense. But if he's actually trying to make a point, it becomes really awkward. It also depends on how the cheese is delivered. "Brainwashing our children to be mean" goes full on Andrew Lloyd Webber. If he delivers the cheese in a bit of a Dead Star/Hyper Music/Psycho(?) manner I'd be able to handle it a lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Dead Star's lyrics are great too. EDIT: +1 to Animal above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeirdF Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I think the lyrics on Origin were fantastic, I'd definitely be happy with more of that. They didn't make much sense but they sounded cool and weren't trying to change humanity's game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Matt should just stick to writing music and hire Peter Silberman as his lyric ghostwriter. That would probably be worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nederzoli Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Dead Star's lyrics are great too. EDIT: +1 to Animal above. What about Hoodoo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthemiddle Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I hope they expand on the 0305030 riff in psycho and add to it/change it up Otherwise the song could get old fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 What about Hoodoo? Yup, another good one - City Of Delusion too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Ferris Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Actually, I think I'm being a touch harsh - Ruled By Secrecy, for instance, has great lyrics. Generally he's fine if he's leaning more on vague imagery, a la Chino Moreno. I'd say he does better than most lyricists I've heard tackling politics, but the general success rate on that is pretty low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Still think it's ridiculous that Hoodoo's lyrics somehow became objectively good to the whole fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 It's because they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 It's because they are. It just feels like something people have been told rather than discovered themselves. Like Musewiki told them it was the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeirdF Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Still think it's ridiculous that Hoodoo's lyrics somehow became objectively good to the whole fanbase. If we're talking relative to all of Matt's lyrics, then they're pretty damn good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobiiiaaas Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I fell in love with Hoodoo from the very first moment I heard it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 It just feels like something people have been told rather than discovered themselves. Like Musewiki told them it was the best. MuseWiki is always right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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