Cider Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Guys, I have a problem: ... I want more pedals What should I get now? A Keeley Compressor (what is it for anyway?) or Keeley Fuzzhead? How different is the Fuzzhead to the FF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 A Keeley Compressor (what is it for anyway?) Compressing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMSCKz4GRZY (it's got the Keeley too) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Its worth doing! Angle the microphone based on where you listen to it from. Check the frequency response as well, if it has a bass roll-off to counteract proximity effect, then get it up close. Try it off axis by 30-45 degree but yeah, close Mic Will work too. I record my stuff with a blue snowball, it works best if you have it set against your grillcloth. Haven't noticed any difference where i put it in relation to the XY axis of it but angles change it databasing and makes my tone lose tons of body. Try angling slightly if your tone is bright but otherwise your milage vary on having it straight on. I recommend slightly off center near the lower leftish side of the speaker, but I'm sure that varies hella hard between cabs Dont have clips ATM I'm at work though, but let me know if you try this and it works. Thanks for the advice! Stocking, I tried it against the cloth, off to the side of the speaker and angled about 30 degrees which sounded much better than before. Only problem was the noise that sometimes happens when there's a lot of gain being more noticeable, but it wasn't too bad. Which setting on your snowball do you use for recording guitar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Guys, I have a problem: ... I want more pedals What should I get now? A Keeley Compressor (what is it for anyway?) or Keeley Fuzzhead? How different is the Fuzzhead to the FF? I wouldn't consider buying it if you don't know what it does. But the video Matthijs posted explains it pretty well. And the fuzz head is a more 'traditional' fuzz pedal. It's more or less based on a fuzz face... but then again, I understand the fuzz factory is a modified fuzz face too. Or at least that's what Niel told me. I do think MB uses the fuzz head with the kaoss pad synth patches, rather than the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I wouldn't consider buying it if you don't know what it does. But the video Matthijs posted explains it pretty well. That's true James - probably why I sold my first FF and Box of Rock not long after owning them. My Firehawk FX has a compressor thing and bunch of delays/ reverb, so I think those would do for now. Probably need a Whammy though What'd you think of that Kemper video? New amp for James? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocking Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Thanks for the advice! Stocking, I tried it against the cloth, off to the side of the speaker and angled about 30 degrees which sounded much better than before. Only problem was the noise that sometimes happens when there's a lot of gain being more noticeable, but it wasn't too bad. Which setting on your snowball do you use for recording guitar? I have it set on the first option, but if I see it start clipping, I'll change it to the second setting (-10 dB I think). I also get the hiss from high gain, but I think it's just cause I needed a noise suppressor maybe. I have no solutions for that yet sadly Glad to hear it helped also! It's such a handy mic, especially at the price, got mine scratch and dent for 30 bucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 Fwiw, the Fuzz Factory is closer to a modified Tonebender, with negative feedback on the first transistor like an LPB. This makes the input buffer work, allowing the negative ground pedal with PNP age trannies, which is also what makes it unstable and prone to squealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted September 15, 2016 Share Posted September 15, 2016 I have it set on the first option, but if I see it start clipping, I'll change it to the second setting (-10 dB I think). I also get the hiss from high gain, but I think it's just cause I needed a noise suppressor maybe. I have no solutions for that yet sadly Glad to hear it helped also! It's such a handy mic, especially at the price, got mine scratch and dent for 30 bucks. The noise mostly came from the dodgy fuzz setting I was using so it shouldn't happen much with other settings. $30 for it is a pretty good deal! Probably need a Whammy though You'd probably be better off getting a decent overdrive or distortion pedal first, since the whammy and fuzz factory don't work well together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I disagree. I run the FF into whammy and delay for instant Fury toanz. That said, I haven't had a ff on the board for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 The noise mostly came from the dodgy fuzz setting I was using so it shouldn't happen much with other settings. $30 for it is a pretty good deal! You'd probably be better off getting a decent overdrive or distortion pedal first, since the whammy and fuzz factory don't work well together. Won't the whammy break anyway? Seems to happen to everyone. Especially Dom. And for a second I thought "dodgy fuzz" was from the settings list. It's never too late to add it I guess. Atari 7:00 3:00 5:00 8:00 60's Fuzz 2:00 8:30 3:00 5:00 Arpegio 12:00 3:00 3:00 3:00 Bonkers Fuzz (1) 2:00 2:00 11:00 3:00 Bonkers Fuzz (2) 1:00 1:00 11:00 3:00 Clean Fuzz 5:00 2:00 11:00 5:00 Clean Up Fuzz 7:00 7:00 5:00 (lower till squeal stops) 5:00 Clean to OD 5:00 2:00 10:00 5:00 Dummy Fuzz 11:00 11:00 5:00 5:00 Dead Quite Ripper 9:00 3:00 5:00 7:00 Electric Beans 7:00 5:00 7:00 5:00 Fizzy Fizz 10:00 1:00 11:00 12:00 Fuzz Bright 1:00 12:00 1:00 4:00 Fuzz Distortion 12:00 12:00 3:00 9:00 FuzzFace71 (1) 12:00 12:00 12:00 5:00 FuzzFace71 (2) 3:00 7:00 12:00 4:30 FuzzFace71 (3) 7:00 12:00 1:00 5:00 FuzzFace71 (4) 12:00 7:00 12:00 5:00 Fuzz Mellow 1:00 12:00 1:00 9:00 Fuzz Splutter 3:00 12:00 3:00 9:00 Fuzz Squeal 9:00 12:00 3:00 9:00 Hi-Compression 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00 Hi-Octane 2:00 to 3:00 7:00 7:00 5:00 Interference 7:00 3:00 12:00 5:00 Intermodulation 2-3:00 7:00 7:00 5:00 IYW 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00 Juice Face 12:00 12:00 12:00 12:00 Krackle Fuzz 1:00 4:00 10:00 2-5:00 Mellow Mud 2:30 7:00 7:00 9:00 Metal Distortion 4:00 10:30 7:00 5:00 Modulated Mud Fuzz 12:00 11:00 5:00 7:00 Modulated Sticky 12:00 1:00 5:00 7:00 Modulated Sticky Fuzz 9:00 3:00 9:00 3:00 Muse-esque 2:30 3:15 5:00 5:00 No-Name Fuzz 1:00 11:00 2:00 7:00 No-Name Fuzz (2) 10:00 7:00 12:00 5:00 OD/Fuzz 7:00 7:00 7:00 5:00 OD Squeal 7:00 12:00 3:00 3:00 Pitch Drop 7:00 12:00 5:00 7:00 Please Fuzz 12:00 7:00 3:00 2:00 Prickly Vexter 8:45 12:15 2:00 4:45 1:30 Psychedelic Crackle 1:00 8:00 3:00 3:00 Punky 2:30 - 3:30 7:00 7:00 5:00 Radio Fuzz 7:00 10:00 12:00 5:00 (play A, lower to taste) Random Fuzz 1:30 7:00 5:00 4:00 (approx) Range 7:00 12:00 3:00 12:00 Resonant Fuzz 7:00 7:00 12:00 4:00 Smashing Pumpkins-esque 2:00 9:00 5:00 10:00 Smooth Fuzz 7:00 3:00 5:00 5:00 (lower to mellow) Soft Fuzz 1:00 7:00 7:00 Variable Spastic Muff 5:00 7:00 5:00 5:00 Squealer Fuzz 9:00 9:00 9:00 9:00 Squealer Fuzz (2) 7:00 8:00 1:00 7:00 Static / Low 12:00 12:00 5:00 7:00 Stooges Fuzz 3:00 7:00 3:00 5:00 Stylo Fuzz 12:30 12:30 7:00 7:00 Super-Heavy 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00 Sweet Sustain 1:00 7:00 10:00 1:30 Tight and Sweet 12:00 8:00 8:00 5:00 Tiny 10:30 12:00 12:30 9:30 Traditional Fuzz 9:00 7:00 11:00 to 1:00 11-1:00 Traditional Fuzz (1) 9:00 7:00 1:00 5:00 Traditional Fuzz (2) 2:00 7:00 3:00 5:00 Ugly Fuzz 2:00 8:30 3:30 2:00 Velcro 7:00 5:00 5:00 2:00 Weezer-esque 2:30 7:00 7:00 5:00 Whale 7:00 1:00 5:00 9:00 What the Fuzz? 7:00 7:00 5:00 5:00 I disagree. I run the FF into whammy and delay for instant Fury toanz. That said, I haven't had a ff on the board for a while. You mean you have it taped on built into your guitar, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heyjackk Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Genuinely still never owned a FF. Really want one but whenever I have money I just buy something else Recently upgraded to Pro Tools from Logic as my last purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaicen Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Won't the whammy break anyway? Seems to happen to everyone. Especially Dom. You mean you have it taped on built into your guitar, right? I'm on my third mainboard for the whammy IV, so yeah. The WhammyWah XP is going strong still, and actually sounds better (shh, I know..). And no, I no longer own any of the FF's built into guitars, and all the others are unboxed for various reasons, including the one that used to live in a certain SXC Stealth. RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 I disagree. I run the FF into whammy and delay for instant Fury toanz. That said, I haven't had a ff on the board for a while. With a whammy IV that sounds amazing. Won't the whammy break anyway? Seems to happen to everyone. Especially Dom. And for a second I thought "dodgy fuzz" was from the settings list. It's never too late to add it I guess. Atari 7:00 3:00 5:00 8:00 60's Fuzz 2:00 8:30 3:00 5:00 Arpegio 12:00 3:00 3:00 3:00 Bonkers Fuzz (1) 2:00 2:00 11:00 3:00 Bonkers Fuzz (2) 1:00 1:00 11:00 3:00 Clean Fuzz 5:00 2:00 11:00 5:00 Clean Up Fuzz 7:00 7:00 5:00 (lower till squeal stops) 5:00 Clean to OD 5:00 2:00 10:00 5:00 Dummy Fuzz 11:00 11:00 5:00 5:00 Dead Quite Ripper 9:00 3:00 5:00 7:00 Electric Beans 7:00 5:00 7:00 5:00 Fizzy Fizz 10:00 1:00 11:00 12:00 Fuzz Bright 1:00 12:00 1:00 4:00 Fuzz Distortion 12:00 12:00 3:00 9:00 FuzzFace71 (1) 12:00 12:00 12:00 5:00 FuzzFace71 (2) 3:00 7:00 12:00 4:30 FuzzFace71 (3) 7:00 12:00 1:00 5:00 FuzzFace71 (4) 12:00 7:00 12:00 5:00 Fuzz Mellow 1:00 12:00 1:00 9:00 Fuzz Splutter 3:00 12:00 3:00 9:00 Fuzz Squeal 9:00 12:00 3:00 9:00 Hi-Compression 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00 Hi-Octane 2:00 to 3:00 7:00 7:00 5:00 Interference 7:00 3:00 12:00 5:00 Intermodulation 2-3:00 7:00 7:00 5:00 IYW 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00 Juice Face 12:00 12:00 12:00 12:00 Krackle Fuzz 1:00 4:00 10:00 2-5:00 Mellow Mud 2:30 7:00 7:00 9:00 Metal Distortion 4:00 10:30 7:00 5:00 Modulated Mud Fuzz 12:00 11:00 5:00 7:00 Modulated Sticky 12:00 1:00 5:00 7:00 Modulated Sticky Fuzz 9:00 3:00 9:00 3:00 Muse-esque 2:30 3:15 5:00 5:00 No-Name Fuzz 1:00 11:00 2:00 7:00 No-Name Fuzz (2) 10:00 7:00 12:00 5:00 OD/Fuzz 7:00 7:00 7:00 5:00 OD Squeal 7:00 12:00 3:00 3:00 Pitch Drop 7:00 12:00 5:00 7:00 Please Fuzz 12:00 7:00 3:00 2:00 Prickly Vexter 8:45 12:15 2:00 4:45 1:30 Psychedelic Crackle 1:00 8:00 3:00 3:00 Punky 2:30 - 3:30 7:00 7:00 5:00 Radio Fuzz 7:00 10:00 12:00 5:00 (play A, lower to taste) Random Fuzz 1:30 7:00 5:00 4:00 (approx) Range 7:00 12:00 3:00 12:00 Resonant Fuzz 7:00 7:00 12:00 4:00 Smashing Pumpkins-esque 2:00 9:00 5:00 10:00 Smooth Fuzz 7:00 3:00 5:00 5:00 (lower to mellow) Soft Fuzz 1:00 7:00 7:00 Variable Spastic Muff 5:00 7:00 5:00 5:00 Squealer Fuzz 9:00 9:00 9:00 9:00 Squealer Fuzz (2) 7:00 8:00 1:00 7:00 Static / Low 12:00 12:00 5:00 7:00 Stooges Fuzz 3:00 7:00 3:00 5:00 Stylo Fuzz 12:30 12:30 7:00 7:00 Super-Heavy 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00 Sweet Sustain 1:00 7:00 10:00 1:30 Tight and Sweet 12:00 8:00 8:00 5:00 Tiny 10:30 12:00 12:30 9:30 Traditional Fuzz 9:00 7:00 11:00 to 1:00 11-1:00 Traditional Fuzz (1) 9:00 7:00 1:00 5:00 Traditional Fuzz (2) 2:00 7:00 3:00 5:00 Ugly Fuzz 2:00 8:30 3:30 2:00 Velcro 7:00 5:00 5:00 2:00 Weezer-esque 2:30 7:00 7:00 5:00 Whale 7:00 1:00 5:00 9:00 What the Fuzz? 7:00 7:00 5:00 5:00 You mean you have it taped on built into your guitar, right? It probably will break, but it can new born. Nah, dodgy fuzz isn't on the list, the knobs were all set randomly in an attempt to get something good... it didn't work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 (edited) Won't the whammy break anyway? Seems to happen to everyone. Especially Dom. And for a second I thought "dodgy fuzz" was from the settings list. It's never too late to add it I guess. Atari 7:00 3:00 5:00 8:00 60's Fuzz 2:00 8:30 3:00 5:00 Arpegio 12:00 3:00 3:00 3:00 Bonkers Fuzz (1) 2:00 2:00 11:00 3:00 Bonkers Fuzz (2) 1:00 1:00 11:00 3:00 Clean Fuzz 5:00 2:00 11:00 5:00 Clean Up Fuzz 7:00 7:00 5:00 (lower till squeal stops) 5:00 Clean to OD 5:00 2:00 10:00 5:00 Dummy Fuzz 11:00 11:00 5:00 5:00 Dead Quite Ripper 9:00 3:00 5:00 7:00 Electric Beans 7:00 5:00 7:00 5:00 Fizzy Fizz 10:00 1:00 11:00 12:00 Fuzz Bright 1:00 12:00 1:00 4:00 Fuzz Distortion 12:00 12:00 3:00 9:00 FuzzFace71 (1) 12:00 12:00 12:00 5:00 FuzzFace71 (2) 3:00 7:00 12:00 4:30 FuzzFace71 (3) 7:00 12:00 1:00 5:00 FuzzFace71 (4) 12:00 7:00 12:00 5:00 Fuzz Mellow 1:00 12:00 1:00 9:00 Fuzz Splutter 3:00 12:00 3:00 9:00 Fuzz Squeal 9:00 12:00 3:00 9:00 Hi-Compression 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00 Hi-Octane 2:00 to 3:00 7:00 7:00 5:00 Interference 7:00 3:00 12:00 5:00 Intermodulation 2-3:00 7:00 7:00 5:00 IYW 2:00 3:00 4:00 5:00 Juice Face 12:00 12:00 12:00 12:00 Krackle Fuzz 1:00 4:00 10:00 2-5:00 Mellow Mud 2:30 7:00 7:00 9:00 Metal Distortion 4:00 10:30 7:00 5:00 Modulated Mud Fuzz 12:00 11:00 5:00 7:00 Modulated Sticky 12:00 1:00 5:00 7:00 Modulated Sticky Fuzz 9:00 3:00 9:00 3:00 Muse-esque 2:30 3:15 5:00 5:00 No-Name Fuzz 1:00 11:00 2:00 7:00 No-Name Fuzz (2) 10:00 7:00 12:00 5:00 OD/Fuzz 7:00 7:00 7:00 5:00 OD Squeal 7:00 12:00 3:00 3:00 Pitch Drop 7:00 12:00 5:00 7:00 Please Fuzz 12:00 7:00 3:00 2:00 Prickly Vexter 8:45 12:15 2:00 4:45 1:30 Psychedelic Crackle 1:00 8:00 3:00 3:00 Punky 2:30 - 3:30 7:00 7:00 5:00 Radio Fuzz 7:00 10:00 12:00 5:00 (play A, lower to taste) Random Fuzz 1:30 7:00 5:00 4:00 (approx) Range 7:00 12:00 3:00 12:00 Resonant Fuzz 7:00 7:00 12:00 4:00 Smashing Pumpkins-esque 2:00 9:00 5:00 10:00 Smooth Fuzz 7:00 3:00 5:00 5:00 (lower to mellow) Soft Fuzz 1:00 7:00 7:00 Variable Spastic Muff 5:00 7:00 5:00 5:00 Squealer Fuzz 9:00 9:00 9:00 9:00 Squealer Fuzz (2) 7:00 8:00 1:00 7:00 Static / Low 12:00 12:00 5:00 7:00 Stooges Fuzz 3:00 7:00 3:00 5:00 Stylo Fuzz 12:30 12:30 7:00 7:00 Super-Heavy 3:00 9:00 5:00 5:00 Sweet Sustain 1:00 7:00 10:00 1:30 Tight and Sweet 12:00 8:00 8:00 5:00 Tiny 10:30 12:00 12:30 9:30 Traditional Fuzz 9:00 7:00 11:00 to 1:00 11-1:00 Traditional Fuzz (1) 9:00 7:00 1:00 5:00 Traditional Fuzz (2) 2:00 7:00 3:00 5:00 Ugly Fuzz 2:00 8:30 3:30 2:00 Velcro 7:00 5:00 5:00 2:00 Weezer-esque 2:30 7:00 7:00 5:00 Whale 7:00 1:00 5:00 9:00 What the Fuzz? 7:00 7:00 5:00 5:00 I tried this list out yesterday, but after like 10 settings it all just sounded the same to me. Ears were buzzing. Would it be a better idea to get a Whammy V/DT or a Wah Probe? Also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArYxQGBemfA&feature=youtu.be Edited September 16, 2016 by Cider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Soldanos and Oranges. They're completely different pedals. Also, what happened to Witz? He'd love this. I don't know if he actually liked AC/DC, but I just know he had an SG, so he must have https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5C7GKGxICg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottST Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 I don't know if he actually liked AC/DC, but I just know he had an SG, so he must have #sweepinggeneralisations But nah, probably true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Yeah he is. Do you have an SG, Scott? That would tell me a lot about what kind of music you like With the Mansons I have, I'm obviously a massive Led Zeppelin fanboi. But then you probably already figured that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottST Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Yeah he is. Do you have an SG, Scott? That would tell me a lot about what kind of music you like With the Mansons I have, I'm obviously a massive Led Zeppelin fanboi. But then you probably already figured that out. Nah, telecaster. Status Quo fanboi number 1. Totally isnt a sunburst one and I totally aint a Radiohead fanboi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ArYxQGBemfA&feature=youtu.be Got the Marshall one right Also, what happened to Witz? He'd love this. I don't know if he actually liked AC/DC, but I just know he had an SG, so he must have Did he ever show us his Les Paul with the FRX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Nah, telecaster. Status Quo fanboi number 1. Totally isnt a sunburst one and I totally aint a Radiohead fanboi. Do you have an apple sticker on it? (to show that you endorse apple products that is) Did he ever show us his Les Paul with the FRX? Not that I can remember Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cider Posted September 17, 2016 Share Posted September 17, 2016 Got the Marshall one right Did he ever show us his Les Paul with the FRX? The Kemper is still so good though. So much want. So whammy for Fury toanz right? I don't know how to do +1/-1 Octave on the Firehawk, but I can set the FFF one octave down and run it into a +1 octave for something similar enough. How do you guys set your FF for the Fury fuzz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stocking Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that DeviEver is back, just wanted to share this because The Hyperion is probably the Musiest fuzz pedal I've used in a while with solid tones. think I'll pick up another one eventually. It'll have to do for me till I can get the money to get a dang kemper to profile some good amps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The Kemper is still so good though. So much want. So whammy for Fury toanz right? I don't know how to do +1/-1 Octave on the Firehawk, but I can set the FFF one octave down and run it into a +1 octave for something similar enough. How do you guys set your FF for the Fury fuzz? That's not how you're supposed to do it. When it says +1/-1 octave, it's one or the other. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoEuI14i9hE intro is switching between the two, main riff is -1 octave, chorus bit is +1 octave, etc And keep in mind that this is the harmonizer setting, rather than the standard one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonbrown Posted September 18, 2016 Share Posted September 18, 2016 The Kemper is still so good though. So much want. So whammy for Fury toanz right? I don't know how to do +1/-1 Octave on the Firehawk, but I can set the FFF one octave down and run it into a +1 octave for something similar enough. How do you guys set your FF for the Fury fuzz? Fury's guitar tone isn't really that fuzzy. It only sounds fuzzy because Chris's bass IS running through a fuzz and that gives it all that tasty oompfh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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