MyChemGd1234 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I am looking the DVD in Rome, it's fucking amazing, Matt is at his best, all the songs/compositions/tunes are great it's not that amzing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corona Radiata Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I want to pat you on the head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Ferris Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I want to pat you on the head. My immediate reaction as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Matthew Bellamy is a great great great song writer in every sens, words and music . I wouldn't say he's particularly strong on the lyric front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I wouldn't say he's particularly strong on the lyric front. This. Muse's lyrics have always had as much depth as a glass of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I don't argue about the lack of depth in most of his stuff, but I also believe I've heard him say it's a conscious choice (adding in multiple or at least vague interpretations, usually about relationships, to makes songs more "relatable," etc) - so, maybe not so much that he's not "strong" at lyrics, so much as makes decisions we don't always particularly care for. This might be close enough to the same thing for most people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 He's a better lyricist than Trent Reznor though, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I don't really care about the lyrics unless they're hilariously bad (a la Supremacy, Animals). In some ways I see more merit in the mature cheddar that is Guiding Light, than the 'serious' lyrics in Supremacy/Animals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 You mentioned Supremacy and Animals (which imo only have one bad line each) and not Survival? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 You mentioned Supremacy and Animals (which imo only have one bad line each) and not Survival? Good point. Forgot about Survival. I'd like to think Matt was taking the piss when writing Survival though, because it's just so over the top. Also, I like your avatar. There isn't enough Crash Bandicoot in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I still try to forget about Survival. I try and tell myself the lyrics have to be a joke, but somedays... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I don't argue about the lack of depth in most of his stuff, but I also believe I've heard him say it's a conscious choice (adding in multiple or at least vague interpretations, usually about relationships, to makes songs more "relatable," etc) - so, maybe not so much that he's not "strong" at lyrics, so much as makes decisions we don't always particularly care for. This might be close enough to the same thing for most people... I don't think that good lyricism has to be 2deep4u or anything like that, I just find a lot of Matt's lyrics are generic on the whole, even stretching to plain dumb at some points. Even Megalomania, Hoodoo and Fury (his best lyrics imo) don't stretch beyond 'good' imo. This makes me sound like a proper snob/elitist when it comes to lyrics but I'm not, I promise I tend to forgive some of the stuff on Showbiz though 'cause he was just starting out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 What the hell is Paul being such a bitch about? Totally missed most of the first page. What am I missing here? Why does he have a right to be pissed off? You guys are like gossipy 13 year olds. Clearly Sippe's time teaching has rubbed off on him negatively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corona Radiata Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 He's a better lyricist than Trent Reznor though, that's for sure. Disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Disagree. Trent's lyrics are awful man, c'mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence Mckenna Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) I think Matt's lyrics are great, full of messages for those who will understand them. I talk here about metaphysical meaning, related to the eternal and universal, not to our daily life and mind. When he sings, he knows that it's not "him alone"(even if, yes, he's the only master on boat, all comes from brain), it's more like a channel who speaks to every hears with differents receptions. It's often conforting or moving messages. I love Muse Edited February 19, 2014 by Terence Mckenna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 yeaaaah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I think Matt's lyrics are great, full of messages for those who will understand them. I talk here about metaphysical meaning, related to the eternal and universal, not to our daily life and mind. Implying there's a correct way of understanding lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terence Mckenna Posted February 19, 2014 Author Share Posted February 19, 2014 Implying there's a correct way of understanding lyrics. No "it's more like a channel who speaks to every hears with differents receptions"I mean "different ways of understanding" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 Are you Matt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 No "it's more like a channel who speaks to every hears with differents receptions"I mean "different ways of understanding" Well... I accept that everybody understands things differently but there's only so much you can get out of certain songs, Survival for example. Race, life's a race and I'm gonna win I suppose you can take it as a comment on evolution and Darwinism, but it's hardly the most subtle example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I still try to forget about Survival. I try and tell myself the lyrics have to be a joke, but somedays... Yeah Survival's lyrics are shite, the instrumental version is great though. I think Matt's lyrics are great, full of messages for those who will understand them. I talk here about metaphysical meaning, related to the eternal and universal, not to our daily life and mind. Whatever happened to that Muse lyrics generator? We all know that's how Matt puts his lyrics together... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sade Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 (edited) To be honest I judge anyone who thinks Matt's NWO-tinged crap and commentary on the state of the world is poignant. There are some interesting ideas in the lyrics. Despite being one of zaniest in Muse's lyrics repertoire, the idea behind Exo-Politics taken to an abstract enough level is a nice one, if taken as being about governments using smokescreens to destract people from the real issues, rather than, you know, being about co-operation of governments and aliens. I just don't think the ideas are almost ever executed in a way that makes them stand out. I mean just having a few lines of words and using those elegantly or effectively is an art form in itself. Edited February 19, 2014 by sade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meep Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 I play renaissance lute. Own it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Ferris Posted February 19, 2014 Share Posted February 19, 2014 He's a better lyricist than Trent Reznor though, that's for sure. I think certain NIN songs are lyrically stronger than most Muse songs. But frankly I can think of numerous lyricists better than both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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