randomparrot Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I think Greenwood still has the first Whammy. I think he uses the 4 now though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I think Morello uses the DT now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Ah, I was a bit confused there, so this Boss pedal can do a pitch-shifting effect, all on its own, similar to the one in BF and MOTP? And I swore I read somewhere that Matt didn't actually coin this effect, that others have used it before him. I don't have any evidence either way, but I'm pretty sure I read it somewhere.. The effect in MOTP is a vocoder, so yeah, people have been at it for decades. The Boss pedal can do pitchshifting, just can't control it using MIDI like all Whammies since the WH4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 The effect in MOTP is a vocoder, so yeah, people have been at it for decades. Say what. The effect isn't Matt running his guitar through 2 synths? He said that's how he got the effect in an interview.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Say what. The effect isn't Matt running his guitar through 2 synths? He said that's how he got the effect in an interview.. http://musewiki.org/Clavia_Nord_Modular_G2_Engine actually is it a vocoder? Maybe I'm missing something obvious but can't see vocoder in the descrip anywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 actually is it a vocoder? Maybe I'm missing something obvious but can't see vocoder in the descrip anywhere That particular synth does have a vocoder and I have replicated the effect with I think a square wave playing the pattern, running both that and a guitar into a vocoder, then adding distortion after. Doing it with a Whammy, it is more glitchy and MOTP is more clean in comparison. But really picking hairs at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 I thought he just had something doing the pitchshifting and blended it slightly with the 'un-shifted' signal or sutin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 How does Matt get the MOTP effect live? My guitar teacher reckons he mimes to a backing track, whilst it isn't hard to mime to, that's ridiculous as the tone is different for almost every performance. So, considering Matt doesn't just settle for using Guitar Rig/Whammy like us regular folk, what does he do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 How does Matt get the MOTP effect live? My guitar teacher reckons he mimes to a backing track, whilst it isn't hard to mime to, that's ridiculous as the tone is different for almost every performance. So, considering Matt doesn't just settle for using Guitar Rig/Whammy like us regular folk, what does he do? Read the above posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 That particular synth does have a vocoder and I have replicated the effect with I think a square wave playing the pattern, running both that and a guitar into a vocoder, then adding distortion after. . This might be a dumb question, but I don't suppose there is a VST synth modeled on the Clavia is there? And which vocoder did you use to do this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Read the above posts You saying he uses the Clavia live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 You saying he uses the Clavia live? Yeah it's been in his rack since BH&R now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 This might be a dumb question, but I don't suppose there is a VST synth modeled on the Clavia is there? And which vocoder did you use to do this? Any vocoder and a synth if required that I've had access to over the years. Got a recording I did in Ableton using Vocoder and Analog, but didn't have an amp simulator at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Still remember on The Resistance Tour page on Wikipedia there was a part that mentioned the setlists being criticized by people "such as Dee3Dee". Late to the party, but: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Yeah it's been in his rack since BH&R now! Aha, I'm not too familiar with his live setup besides the obvious (whammy, FF etc) How much are they? If they're uber expensive is there a decent, cheaper alternative that can be used for MOTP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Aha, I'm not too familiar with his live setup besides the obvious (whammy, FF etc) How much are they? If they're uber expensive is there a decent, cheaper alternative that can be used for MOTP? A WH4 and plenty of VSTs out there. Would be totally stupid to buy a synth to only play MOTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Aha, I'm not too familiar with his live setup besides the obvious (whammy, FF etc) How much are they? If they're uber expensive is there a decent, cheaper alternative that can be used for MOTP? I think they're reasonably expensive. And take a scroll through the gear page on musewiki, is pretty detailed I guess and a whammy will do fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtinction Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Haha I meant besides the obvious Whammy option, but I suppose you're right in saying it's pointless buying a synth just for a more realistic sounding MOTP sound. Is there anything else worth noting Matt uses the Clavia for? If i was to buy one, or something similar, what else would it be able to do, that would justify buying a synth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Haha I meant besides the obvious Whammy option, but I suppose you're right in saying it's pointless buying a synth just for a more realistic sounding MOTP sound. Is there anything else worth noting Matt uses the Clavia for? If i was to buy one, or something similar, what else would it be able to do, that would justify buying a synth? Its a synthesiser? So it'll do synth stuff. But there are better options out there, if I was buying a hardware synth, the Nord wouldn't be anywhere near top of my list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Late to the party, but: I regretted not taking a screencap of that before it was edited. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord MFC Posted August 2, 2013 Share Posted August 2, 2013 Late to the party, but: that's amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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