Dominic. Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Yeah they fuck up way too much to be miming. I mean I still think they exaggerate quite how much Morgan does but it's still obviously a live performance. Talking out his arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Some journalist who thinks he's more important than he really is and a dude that's salty because he couldn't do the Werchter Boutique gig because Muse brought their own people. Bunch of idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxyous Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 y'all need to calm the fuck down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 y'all need to calm the fuck down BUT THEY DISRESPECT MUSE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Am I the only one who just assumed they used some form of backing track to begin with? At least for some of the extra stuff going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Am I the only one who just assumed they used some form of backing track to begin with? At least for some of the extra stuff going on. That's obvious, for songs like Unsustainable and Supremacy (and many others) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 y'all need to calm the fuck down Let people talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I guess I don't see why this is a big deal, then. The guy clearly used the word "playback" to get attention, but I don't see where he claimed they actually mimed things, unless it got lost in translation. I never really thought Morgan played absolutely everything the band can't, and I never minded either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxyous Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Let people talk. I'm not stopping people's talking, I'm asking them to calm down. Anger's fruitless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 There is a big difference between playback and what he describes. This is essentially live multi-tracking. Its obvious that Muse rely greatly on multi-tracking in the studio so it is even more necessary in a live situation where any weakness in the sound will be noticed by the crowd. It is not the crowds demanding perfection, its Muse wanting to replicate the largeness of the studio track. I think there was a bit of sensationalizing on both sides. The guy shouldn't have said playback as it simply isn't playback as we commonly know it and the journalist for running with unconfirmed allegations. Really? You'd say in an environment where the acoustics may or may not be so great, you have a tonne of people singing along and may be jumping/singing along yourself that you'd be standing there thinking....hmmmm, this guitar isn't quite as beefy as I'd like. I sure would like it to be multitracked to create an all round better listening experience Also I swear I read an interview in the past year where they said they wanted to do as little multiple takes on guitar as possible. You don't need 'live multitracking' to create a large sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Also I swear I read an interview in the past year where they said they wanted to do as little multiple takes on guitar as possible. It was one guitar track for each song. And so far I have yet to find evidence of a double tracked guitar so I guess they were being serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Really? You'd say in an environment where the acoustics may or may not be so great, you have a tonne of people singing along and may be jumping/singing along yourself that you'd be standing there thinking....hmmmm, this guitar isn't quite as beefy as I'd like. I sure would like it to be multitracked to create an all round better listening experience Also I swear I read an interview in the past year where they said they wanted to do as little multiple takes on guitar as possible. You don't need 'live multitracking' to create a large sound I have repeatedly seen people complaining that TIRO isn't "beefy" as it used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 (edited) Yeah they fuck up way too much to be miming. I mean I still think they exaggerate quite how much Morgan does but it's still obviously a live performance. Talking out his arse I was thinking the same thing. Also after watching pretty much every live video on youtube for the past decade there's so many subtle variations and improvs matt does with songs live both in guitar and vocal that comes across matched exactly to how he's performing. Its completely bs that they use play back. Obviously they use tracks for synths and orchestras and all the electronics and stuff duh. But thats it. And theres definitely no use of multi tracked guitars like the article is saying. Like I said too many random variations improvisations that are different each performance that itd be impossible to have it tracked. Edited July 3, 2013 by Citizen_Eraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeniInChains Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUuZN77rFy4 They played playback at that show because of the show itself though, every performer there had to mime. I don't really think they had a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 They played playback at that show because of the show itself though, every performer there had to mime. I don't really think they had a choice. Well yes, but no one said they chose to mime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeniInChains Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Well yes, but no one said they chose to mime. Didn't say that either. Nvm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 They played playback at that show because of the show itself though, every performer there had to mime. I don't really think they had a choice. Missing the pooooint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Definitely http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Jfk8j63a0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Jfk8j63a0 That wasn't miming... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 That wasn't miming... It was. Vocals were live, but instruments were just a pre-recorded track from a rehearsal of the ceremony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 It was. Vocals were live, but instruments were just a pre-recorded track from a rehearsal of the ceremony. Sounded/looked as if the guitar was live too, unless he always does that bit at the end? (I haven't actually watched any Muse for years). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 Sounded/looked as if the guitar was live too, unless he always does that bit at the end? (I haven't actually watched any Muse for years). As I said, it sounded like it was live because it was pre-recorded from a live rehearsal a few days earlier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 As I said, it sounded like it was live because it was pre-recorded from a live rehearsal a few days earlier That's why I said looked, as he appeared to be playing the same ending bit which isn't part of the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted July 3, 2013 Share Posted July 3, 2013 that's right, you show him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 That Survival miming was the worst thing ever. At some point Bellamy even stops playing guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiga Kagekami Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Even Mr Bean did better at playing the keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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