serpentsatellite Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 People need to get over the "boring" US crowd thing; it got old years ago. Just because people aren't jumping around and slamming into one another, doesn't mean they aren't enjoying themselves (and Muse has attracted an older crowd over here in the first place...) I probably enjoyed my gig more than most people, but I wasn't super energetic; watched, enjoyed, and clapped/cheered at the ends of songs. 20 years ago here you couldn't go see Michael Bolton without a mosh pit and people jumping up and down 100% of the show (slight exaggeration... but I did get three broken toes and a cracked rib in the back at a Goo Goo Dolls gig. Don't ask.) I actually prefer being able to take in the gig and enjoy, tbh. What IS killing gigs is cell phones. Either people trying to record the entire thing and blocking everyone's view, or the twats that post "OMG, so awesome!" on their FB and check their messages every six seconds, shining the light in your eyes. Why they wouldn't put a more energetic crowd shot on the DVD is another matter, and I think I'm just beyond wondering why the fuck they didn't use the footage from the Rome show. It's not going to bring it back, and I'm never going to feel better about some of the cuts (SS and Uns in particular,) or the fact that the CD is pretty lame (and FG is on it for absolutely no reason.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redneonfish Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 the fact that the CD is pretty lame (and FG is on it for absolutely no reason.) FG isn't on the CD though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Guys, anyone noticed this? Difference in Matt's falsetto in the end of Survival. First sample of the 2 is from the dvd, second from a live recording of the same concert.. DVD version is like the one from the album, the one on the live recording is a bit lower. While listening more closely you'll notice a backing track of his vocals. http://picosong.com/kPmY Yes, it's been mentioned a bunch of times. you don't think you went a bit over the top with that clip? It was noticeable in the first comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerd herd Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Guys, anyone noticed this? Difference in Matt's falsetto in the end of Survival. First sample of the 2 is from the dvd, second from a live recording of the same concert.. DVD version is like the one from the album, the one on the live recording is a bit lower. While listening more closely you'll notice a backing track of his vocals. http://picosong.com/kPmY Chris and Morgan were doing backing vocals too I think so that could explain the slight difference in pitch. Their vocals probably weren't as prominent in the live recording as they were in the proper mix on the DVD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mskatie Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 It's not going to bring it back, and I'm never going to feel better about some of the cuts (SS and Uns in particular,) or the fact that the CD is pretty lame (and FG is on it for absolutely no reason.) If Charles really was the issue with Unsustainable, it would have been nice to include it on the CD. It sounded fucking awesome in the end credits of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MK333 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 If Charles really was the issue with Unsustainable, it would have been nice to include it on the CD. It sounded fucking awesome in the end credits of the film. > Unsustainable second best live song from T2L > Exclude it on the release > MUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lars_515 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 I gave Rome a listen first for evaluation cause the music industry doesnt have a return policy in case they sell an inferior product. Glad i did, this is probably the worst sounding live-recording i have ever heard. The amount of compression is almost unbearable and the mixing is just as poor. Annoying hearing people sing (and out of tune) over Matt or singing along with a riff of any kind. Every audience sounds the same (i've been there twice this tour), so whats the point, I want to hear Muse when i buy a live-cd. But thats a clearly a matter of choice for the band. The over-compression and lack of dynamics however has to do with (lack of) craftmanship and respecting your valued costumers. Unless they mastered it for playing on phonespeakers, in which case it probably is a sonic masterpeace. Too bad really, they take the whole stadium circus-act so seriously. A really well produced release would have been nice to compliment it. *ducks* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Chris and Morgan were doing backing vocals too I think so that could explain the slight difference in pitch. Their vocals probably weren't as prominent in the live recording as they were in the proper mix on the DVD. The point is that Matt sang a lower note in the recording and it was changed on the dvd to the higher album note. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Annoying hearing people sing (and out of tune) over Matt or singing along with a riff of any kind. Every audience sounds the same (i've been there twice this tour), so whats the point, I want to hear Muse when i buy a live-cd. Why not just go for the studio albums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoma-kun Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 After my initial disappointment with the release has worn off, I do actually enjoy certain performances on the DVD. The visuals are great, the mixing does have room for improvement, but it's way better than how it sounded in the cinema. Then again it makes it even more annoying seeing potentially how much better this DVD could've been with a better setlist, or at least include the highlights of the gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Why does SS have the Headup outro? Like I need to ask even? EDIT: should also poiint out only seen the shoddy youtube clip of it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Why does SS have the Headup outro? Like I need to ask even? EDIT: should also poiint out only seen the shoddy youtube clip of it Why not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 FG isn't on the CD though? Bah! I meant it was on the DVD for no reason. I guess, I suppose they needed it for the theatrical bit, but then I can just bitch that they could have done that bit to ANY fucking song, and not had to shove FG down our throats again. If Charles really was the issue with Unsustainable, it would have been nice to include it on the CD. It sounded fucking awesome in the end credits of the film. Unsustainable is still mostly what I'm pissed about anyways (other than the angering overuse of black and white) and yes, if they were upset about the robot, why in the hell isn't the song at least on the CD? It's awesome live, and was a major part of the promotion for the album and the tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Poor Muse, haha! They release Unsustainable and everyone moans about it - a year later they don't put it on the live release and everyone moans about it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlugInYorkie Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Yes it does. The menu is like the animated power station thing. It's pretty cool. Cheapest most boring menu ever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlugInYorkie Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Poor Muse, haha! They release Unsustainable and everyone moans about it - a year later they don't put it on the live release and everyone moans about it again! Muser logic...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlugInYorkie Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Most disappointing thing about this release is no outros or riffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Poor Muse, haha! They release Unsustainable and everyone moans about it - a year later they don't put it on the live release and everyone moans about it again! People will moan, no matter the subject. Millions years of evolution have made humans perfect moan machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlugInYorkie Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Millions years of evolution have made humans perfect moan machines. Dammit I'm so tempted to make a bad sexual joke about this comment! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Poor Muse, haha! They release Unsustainable and everyone moans about it - a year later they don't put it on the live release and everyone moans about it again! I liked Unsustainable the entire time, and never once believed the entire album was going to be like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Yeah, Unsustainable was never generally disliked on here. Well, aside from the fact that it could have been so much better but that's a different issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 The general complaint was the second bit could have been different from the first, yeah. I get how it's supposed to be a more normal song structure, but I also get the complaint. Most of the bitching about the song was elsewhere; here people just argued over the use of the phrase "real instruments" endlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It's just...WHY NOT MAKE THE LAST DROP HEAVIER THAN THE FIRST? And why not actually make the bass audible. Would have made the song so much more enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falsettobells Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It's just...WHY NOT MAKE THE LAST DROP HEAVIER THAN THE FIRST? And why not actually make the bass audible. Would have made the song so much more enjoyable. Have the extras been uploaded in good quality yet? Does anyone know at which show muse performed that blackout performance where Matt while lying down grabs the hand of that acrobat lady? If it was from the Rome show then it's a shame that they didn't include the performance, would have been so awesome to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Have the extras been uploaded in good quality yet? Does anyone know at which show muse performed that blackout performance where Matt while lying down grabs the hand of that acrobat lady? If it was from the Rome show then it's a shame that they didn't include the performance, would have been so awesome to see that. Okay quality can be found in a FB link earlier in this thread. And yeah, it was Rome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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