PHYXATION Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 If you're referring to mine there is no midi file. I recorded it just direct into my laptop with a whammy pedal. Actually doing the pitch shifting manually. no i was talking about doms, just listened to yours again and thats really good for manual. what whammy is that your using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly. Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Just tried yours dom, why does yours go down to the drop tune? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozo Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 When I saw them (last october) I think he played the whammy movements with the XY pad. He was far from his pedalboard. Or someone play it backstage... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Oh right, yeah I have the whammy 5, so you might need to switch around the programe change to match whatever whammy you have 7 is 1 oct down 0 is 2oct up 8 is 2oct down 22 is bypass 1 is 1 oct up I also use an Ultimate Octave with the oct up setting on to give it that harshish toan which also affects the harmonics so you might need to change what octave that's set to as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHYXATION Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 When I saw them (last october) I think he played the whammy movements with the XY pad. He was far from his pedalboard. Or someone play it backstage... no its all controlled with midi theres to many changes in the whammy modes to do it manually. the verse on the lbum i think he did it manually though ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Just the MIDI file, don't know if it works or not in other DAWs but oh well https://www.dropbox.com/s/t4rels8pha9euy0/Unsustainable%20MIDI%20Whammy.mid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHYXATION Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Just the MIDI file, don't know if it works or not in other DAWs but oh well https://www.dropbox.com/s/t4rels8pha9euy0/Unsustainable%20MIDI%20Whammy.mid just loadedit up in cubase and i think we have progress will pickup my midi to usb shortly and try it out. looks like the control cc's are showing. cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozo Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 no its all controlled with midi theres to many changes in the whammy modes to do it manually. the verse on the lbum i think he did it manually though ^^ OK. Judging by the making of video, yep, he did it manually on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I wouldn't take those making of videos quite so seriously, I mean sure maybe he did do it manually but still not certain. On the takes which don't have the actual finished song over the top, like it's actual camera audio you don't get a great view but his leg on the treadle doesn't seem to move much. Might be wrong though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomrulez Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I wouldn't take those making of videos quite so seriously, I mean sure maybe he did do it manually but still not certain. On the takes which don't have the actual finished song over the top, like it's actual camera audio you don't get a great view but his leg on the treadle doesn't seem to move much. Might be wrong though I agree. Those videos only show a snippet of footage regarding it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 no i was talking about doms, just listened to yours again and thats really good for manual. what whammy is that your using? Its a digitech whammy 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHYXATION Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Its a digitech whammy 4. sounds good, downloaded the midi file and uploaded it into cubase, cc11 treadle isnt responding to the commands proper unfortunately but looks right in the midi list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomrulez Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 sounds good, downloaded the midi file and uploaded it into cubase, cc11 treadle isnt responding to the commands proper unfortunately but looks right in the midi list Check it's on the right channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Check it's on the right channel. It sounds like he has it on the correct one, but if it's the file Dom linked, then it won't work as that was written for the whammy 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Is whammy 5 expression not on cc11? I can't remember the details really, I just clicked on expression in logic then drew out the fancy bits...speaking of which, does anyone know how to actually do curved automation lines in logic? If no one has a whammy 5 then I imagine it should be easy enough to convert that file for whammy 4 or DT. I posted above what the intended programme changes/whammy settings are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 If I could figure out how to export a MIDI file I could give a Whammy IV version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Is whammy 5 expression not on cc11? I can't remember the details really, I just clicked on expression in logic then drew out the fancy bits...speaking of which, does anyone know how to actually do curved automation lines in logic? If no one has a whammy 5 then I imagine it should be easy enough to convert that file for whammy 4 or DT. I posted above what the intended programme changes/whammy settings are I meant the actual commands (which are different on the IV) rather than the channel. I don't think mine is set on CC11 anyway, so it might not matter and yeah, there should be something called automation curve tool to the top right of where you do all the automation work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I meant the actual commands (which are different on the IV) rather than the channel. I don't think mine is set on CC11 anyway, so it might not matter and yeah, there should be something called automation curve tool to the top right of where you do all the automation work. I see, when I get my new cab and can properly use new amp and all will give it a go reworking it all to try and get it as accurate as possible, then when new guitar arrives can actually record youtube cover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I have treadle at 11. Forgot where program changes were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 [ATTACH]15360[/ATTACH] click that ^^ its an attachment so wait, I kinda get the idea, but what exactly do you mean by say...7up on the d string then 9 up on the g string. What exactly do the numbers represent and are you just playing the open D and G strings? EDIT: or do the numbers represent the fret? It's the way it's in brackets that confuses me I guess. I don't know if it's like 9 steps up or some weird shit like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 christ some of the youtube covers of this make me cringe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 christ some of the youtube covers of this make me cringe Post examples. inb4 mine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Post examples. inb4 mine nah I like yours cos it's like, actual pwoper (urgh) and decent There's another whammy one, with an MA, but the tone sounds so thin and horrible and the guy playing stands so still and static basically most of the ones that don't have like the pitch shifting stuff annoy me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 nah I like yours cos it's like, actual pwoper (urgh) and decent There's another whammy one, with an MA, but the tone sounds so thin and horrible and the guy playing stands so still and static basically most of the ones that don't have like the pitch shifting stuff annoy me Well doesn't have pitch shifting but I still liked it mainly for resourcefulness seeing as it was one of the first. Also no one will ever top this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Haha the esparoba one is class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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