arj225 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Hi guys, new around here and don't know if this has been asked before, but what it Matt actually playing during live versions of Unsustainable. I know the guitar tech is doing the whammy, but what is he hitting? Any answers much appreciated, Arjun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 TIME TO SHINE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 It would be if I could find my post with an alrightish Unsustainable tab and MIDI file. James you have leet searching skills. Help pls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Well, this is what I play which for the most part seems accurate. At least going by the making of video (a couple of bits seem different live but it's the same note). Highlighted the main bits I'm unsure of in yellow, but they still sound ok e--------------------------|-----------------------------|-----------------------|------------------------------------------------- B-------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------------|------------------------------------------------- G-------------------------|-----------------------------|------------------------|------------------------------------------------- D-------------------------|------------------------------|-----------------------|------------------------------------------------- A--12----------13-------|-0------0---12*------------|--12--------13-------|-13-13b-13b--13b-13b-13b--13b-13b-- E-------------------------|-------------------------------|-----------------------|------------------------------------------------- e---------------------------------0-------0------------------------------------------------------------------ B--------------------------------0--------0------------------------------------------------------------------ G--------------------------------0--------0----------------------------------------------------------------- D------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A--10*------------13--|--12------12-------|--12--------------13--|--12-12-12-12-12-12-12-12--- E-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I can't do the whole strumming behind the nut thing on my guitar so yeah. That's what works with my MIDI file I play it different from that, but then I'm not using the same MIDI file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I play it different from that, but then I'm not using the same MIDI file But I made it just for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 For anyone interested just did a full cover of it, only on my phone though so sounds a bit shit. One day I'll get a new audio interface [soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/dickmovedom/unsustainable-phone-recording[/soundcloud] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arj225 Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 Thanks, I'll give that tab a go tomorrow. I assume that's with the detune set to -1 and the whammy to +1. Also, whats the midi file you are using? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Thanks, I'll give that tab a go tomorrow. I assume that's with the detune set to -1 and the whammy to +1. Also, whats the midi file you are using? That's with guitar into Whammy 5 (with expression and mode controlled by MIDI) into an Ultimate Octave with octave up on. Does this link work? https://www.dropbox.com/s/bhiv0xg6971y3j3/Unsustainable%20MIDI%20Whammy.zip That version isn't quite complete, the verse isn't quite done there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arj225 Posted February 21, 2013 Author Share Posted February 21, 2013 ah ok, I'm running a Whammy DT and finding it hard to get anything near the correct sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 ah ok, I'm running a Whammy DT and finding it hard to get anything near the correct sound I don't know whether the DT has different midi settings for the different modes but if it doesn't then the file I linked should work well enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arj225 Posted February 22, 2013 Author Share Posted February 22, 2013 Also, any chance of a midi file that works in cubase. Sorry for being fussy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I don't have Cubase sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 I don't know whether the DT has different midi settings for the different modes but if it doesn't then the file I linked should work well enough I think that the settings the Whammy 5 has are the same MIDI commands on the DT, but obviously the DT has more settings that can be controlled. Also the DT settings are a lot clearer than the Whammy settings. For example, Oct -1 on the DT side sounds a lot better than Oct -1 with the Whammy part. Strange but true. Something to do with the Whammy side needing the ability to pitch bend quickly I'm guessing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotec Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Dominic, what chords do you play between 2min26 and 2min50 ? I've heard that Matt tunes his guitar in AADGBE for this song, but I'm not sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Dominic, what chords do you play between 2min26 and 2min50 ? I've heard that Matt tunes his guitar in AADGBE for this song, but I'm not sure... 1:58 to 2:50 is just single notes all on the A string A--0-----8-----5-----7-----3------5------0------0------ x2 Fancy bits are done with the whammy to make it go weeoo, which I've got closer but still not perfect. If you watch the making of or just listen you can work out the picking pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotec Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Thanks ! I'll try that tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arj225 Posted March 10, 2013 Author Share Posted March 10, 2013 I've messaged a few people on yt with no reply about the cubase midi file. Does anyone at all happen to have it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Learn how to make one yourself. It was quite easy on Logic so shouldn't take you too long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephantcollector Posted March 17, 2013 Share Posted March 17, 2013 I'm working on a patch for Unsustainable atm (in Guitar Rig using an Envelope Filter as Cubase refuses to install on my laptop) I have the drop completed (It is the same pattern for both drops isn't it? there's just a different note or two in the second drop right?) but I'm having trouble working out the pattern for the part after the first drop where Matt plays single notes on the A string and makes them go Weeeee! and Woooo! with the whammy. Has anyone got an image for the whammy pattern so I have a rough idea for this part? I remember seeing one somewhere around here but I cannot seem to find it again :/ Oh and the electronic hissing type sound that can be heard after the first drop just before the heavy drums and second reporter speech is a Kaoss Pad isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 (edited) Having never seen anyone tab the actual live version of this song I decided to learn and tab it myself. So here's the actual live version of unsustainable (with the different middle bit) as Matt plays it. Only I did it with a real whammy pedal no cheating midi program auto whammy. For anyone interested check it out and if you want I can post a quick notepad file of the tab. Recorded direct input into my laptop so quality is good. [soundcloud] [/soundcloud] Edited April 26, 2013 by Citizen_Eraser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHYXATION Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 please can i have help getting that midi file..monies could come your way the guitar cover sounded great, something tells me matt has the OC2 running at the same time just something about the tone he had in the studio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted April 27, 2013 Share Posted April 27, 2013 I know a couple of people were interested in this. Here's my Logic file of it. Not 100% Citizen eraser's verse thing is definitely a lot better than mine https://www.dropbox.com/s/bhiv0xg6971y3j3/Unsustainable%20MIDI%20Whammy.zip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 uns tab.txt click that ^^ its an attachment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Citizen_Eraser Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 please can i have help getting that midi file..monies could come your way the guitar cover sounded great, something tells me matt has the OC2 running at the same time just something about the tone he had in the studio. If you're referring to mine there is no midi file. I recorded it just direct into my laptop with a whammy pedal. Actually doing the pitch shifting manually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHYXATION Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I know a couple of people were interested in this. Here's my Logic file of it. Not 100% Citizen eraser's verse thing is definitely a lot better than mine https://www.dropbox.com/s/bhiv0xg6971y3j3/Unsustainable%20MIDI%20Whammy.zip manage get the file dude cheer, there one problem its set as logic file(understandable ) can logic just mix down just as a .midi file? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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