Dave. Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Are you really comparing Save Me to songs like Somewhere Only You Know and Yellow? Yes. Deal with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Singles as far as Muse are concerned are completely irrelevant these days, tbh. Strongly disagreed considering how many people still seem go to their gigs only to hear a handful of singles. Or only beacuse of them, and then get into the rest. My point is that it was the right choice and I think it would have done better than other songs. Yeah but what you said doesn't really make any other point than that Madness was a successful single, so not really anything that disproves my point. I just think they could have gotten more out of a wider selection of singles if the timing with Supremacy and Follow Me was better. If Madness is such a good single, it wouldn't matter if it was after Supremacy or not, would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 We do know. It boomed. In fact, every Muse single this album has completely boomed in Ireland. Not a single air-play, and I listen to the radio a lot. Think you're getting boomed and bombed mixed up there, and unfortunately they're complete opposites But yeah, Muse and singles don't seem to go too well nowadays Yes. Deal with it. And that's why your post is stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 And that's why your post is stupid I saw that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Maybe Muse singles aren't important in the UK anymore... but they still need some more push in the US, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 I saw that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Strongly disagreed considering how many people still seem go to their gigs only to hear a handful of singles. Or only beacuse of them, and then get into the rest. Yeah I think in general Muse does have some strong reliance on singles. And that's why your post is stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Think you're getting boomed and bombed mixed up there, and unfortunately they're complete opposites But yeah, Muse and singles don't seem to go too well nowadays Yeah, I got boomed and bombed mixed up. Fixing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Yeah but what you said doesn't really make any other point than that Madness was a successful single, so not really anything that disproves my point. I just think they could have gotten more out of a wider selection of singles if the timing with Supremacy and Follow Me was better. If Madness is such a good single, it wouldn't matter if it was after Supremacy or not, would it? Having a better lead single helps promote the album more and it's better to start off with a bang. How can I disprove a hypothetical situation? Supremacy might have done better but I don't fucking know. Nobody does. It's just my opinion that Madness is a more radio friendly track and would have been more successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Having a better lead single helps promote the album more and it's better to start off with a bang. How can I disprove a hypothetical situation? Supremacy might have done better but I don't fucking know. Nobody does. It's just my opinion that Madness is a more radio friendly track and would have been more successful. That's why I think Supremacy would've been better as a first single, since I think it's more of a BOOM we're back kind of track. Similar to the Unsustainable trailer. I remember watching that when I was out in Brighton and being shocked as fuck when it kicked in If they still released two singles before the actual album release then Supremacy and Madness (lol first two tracks) would've been sick ACTUALLY HOLD ON. How much of a say does the band have in the tracklisting. Cos especially the last two albums, it's the first tracks on the album that seem to be very singles based. Is that actually a band decision or some corporate bullshit thing iuno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Yeah I think in general Muse does have some strong reliance on singles. Considering the success Madness got even without any form of promotion at all from the record company, I don't see how it couldn't still matter. If anything, singles are more important now than ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Having a better lead single helps promote the album more and it's better to start off with a bang. How can I disprove a hypothetical situation? Supremacy might have done better but I don't fucking know. Nobody does. It's just my opinion that Madness is a more radio friendly track and would have been more successful. Disprove is the wrong word but you have to realise why "I don't think so, Madness was very popular" doesn't really say anything. Since we don't know how popular Supremacy could have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 ACTUALLY HOLD ON. How much of a say does the band have in the tracklisting. Cos especially the last two albums, it's the first tracks on the album that seem to be very singles based. Is that actually a band decision or some corporate bullshit thing iuno Muse (and other bands) tend to stack their singles at the beginning. I seem to notice it more nowadays but I could be completely wrong about that. Starlight Supermassive Black Hole Map of the Problematique Uprising Resistance Undisclosed Desires Apocalypse Please Time is Running Out Sing for Absolution Stockholm Syndrome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Madness shouldn't have been a single. It's too generic to last, and not radio-friendly enough to appeal to any real demographic. Follow Me -> Survival -> Panic Station -> Supremacy -> Animals is what they should've done, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Madness shouldn't have been a single. It's too generic to last, and not radio-friendly enough to appeal to any real demographic. You're absolutely right. Madness didn't last at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Muse (and other bands) tend to stack their singles at the beginning. I seem to notice it more nowadays but I could be completely wrong about that. Single or no, it's probably never a good idea to open your album with a turd of a song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Madness shouldn't have been a single. It's too generic to last, and not radio-friendly enough to appeal to any real demographic. lel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottycydonia Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I really don't understand muse when it comes to singles. Why follow me was a single and not released in the USA just doesn't make sense to me. Kind of killed the buzz from madness, plus I heard chris say recently in an interview that supremacy would be the same. Why even go through the effort of making these videos with no push to make them popular? It's a shame because I think everyone felt that supremacy and panic station were real chances to break the charts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I really don't understand muse when it comes to singles. Why follow me was a single and not released in the USA just doesn't make sense to me. Kind of killed the buzz from madness, plus I heard chris say recently in an interview that supremacy would be the same. Why even go through the effort of making these videos with no push to make them popular? It's a shame because I think everyone felt that supremacy and panic station were real chances to break the charts. Panic Station is the next single for the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puput Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 If only music video for Supremacy was better... But I suppose MVs won't affect too much though. But yes, it's kinda obvious to see they're giving less efforts to push the singles aside Madness, such as Follow Me. It was released but it didn't give too much then we already got Supremacy before Follow Me even gain some popularity. I mean, I just don't want FM to just disappear like that, hope it will emerge again later this year (if that's even possible) so at least it'd last for a while and get some more plays. Hope Muse will give their best to promote Panic Station, it's such a good song and I don't wanna see it ended up like FM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 You're absolutely right. Madness didn't last at all. Well I was sick of it within a week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougwalters Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I never heard madness on the radio in Australia, but undisclosed every week or so, occasionally uprising! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottycydonia Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 Panic Station is the next single for the US. Why not every single released everywhere? They are fucking muse!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyUnleashed Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 I never heard madness on the radio in Australia, but undisclosed every week or so, occasionally uprising! I think Madness did chart in Austraila but not very high (Survival did better i think) Radio stations have a rep for only playing the most popular and requested songs. Uprising is one of there most succesfull singles over there so it makes sense why it is heard every now and then. Shockingly though Undisclosed Desires is Muse's BEST charting single in Austraila which would be why it is played a lot on Radio. * All information shown here was taken from Wikipedia's Muse Discography page so may not be 100% accurate * (was just interusted to look after you said UD got played a lot) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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