sade Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I feel it on parts of T2L, too. Like Follow me sounds hollow to me, although it is supposed to be one of the most personal tracks.Supremacy is grand, but it doesn't really at the end of the day evoke any emotion. I mean, I was just looking at the Brit awards performance finally in HD and was in awe of the performance as a great performance/the virtuosity and/or stern professionalism that left little-to-no room for mistakes. I wasn't moved by it in any way, however. T2L as a whole seems like a step in the right direction, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Could be that. I mean, UD for example is a song about love/sex but feels very cold and distant. It's a great track and I love the production on it, but that sort of coldness replicated all through the album starts to seep through. I think Exogenesis is full of emotion, though, but then again it is the heart of the album. I think there has been an issue with Muse-of-late with some lack of emotion. I mean, many of their critics/"haters" tend to cite a lack of heart and soul as one of the reasons they dislike the band. In a way I get it. Often even many of the emotional tracks are performed with focus on technical brilliancy and showmanship (Stockholm Syndrome comes to mind) that there is an emotional gap sometimes to be felt. That is one reason I'm such a champion of tracks like Falling Down being a part of the set list, they feel more humane. The thing is that Muse have balanced emotion(imo ofc) and professionalism or showmanship or whatever you wanna call it really well before. Like you mentioned, SS is a great example. That's why I feel that TR lacks energy and and life, so many of the tracks just sound dead emotionally. Which obviously doesn't mean that they ARE dead emotionally, "emotional" singing is usually just some shaky vibrato and not cleanly hit notes anyway. I feel it on parts of T2L, too. Like Follow me sounds hollow to me, although it is supposed to be one of the most personal tracks.Supremacy is grand, but it doesn't really at the end of the day evoke any emotion. I mean, I was just looking at the Brit awards performance finally in HD and was in awe of the performance as a great performance/the virtuosity and/or stern professionalism that left little-to-no room for mistakes. I wasn't moved by it in any way, however. T2L as a whole seems like a step in the right direction, however. I kinda agree. Which is why I don't fancy Supremacy all that much. Follow Me is saved by the amazing vocals(on a technical level) and heavy drop though. Hey, sometimes production DOES make the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksky Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I'm actually glad that they're not too emotional and personal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 I'm actually glad that they're not too emotional and personal They ARE personal though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksky Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 They ARE personal though. Of course, every song is personal. But they're not as personal as some other bands/songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Of course, every song is personal. But they're not as personal as some other bands/songs. Well of course there are always more extreme cases, but by Muse standards, T2L have some of their most personal songs. Problem is I can't feel it. And feeling the songs was what got me into Muse, despite not really bothering to understand the lyrics unless they're in my face. Even songs like Apocalypse Please, Butterflies & Hurricanes and Ruled By Secrecy with their not so personal lyrics felt more alive than all of The Resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 The Resistance seems like an album they 'just did'. It seems to me that most of the songs were made for the sake of having more songs on the album. Someone mentioned a similarity between Led Zeppelin IV with Stairway and TR with ExoGenesis. IV really suffered as almost all the studio time was spent on Stairway. I think It was the same with Exo. Exo has so much effort put into it and clearly sticks it head above the rest of the album. But the rest of the album seems like it was made to avoid releasing only an EP so they just fucked around with a few songs (MK Ultra, IBTY, US) and made 2/3 pop songs so the album would sell (Resistance, Uprising) On the other hand T2L has far more effort put into each song (Possibly because they wrote on the road unlike TR) While a few songs are lacking (Sippe mentioned Follow Me) far more songs sound like they put their all into them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Did they write on the road for T2L though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted February 21, 2013 Share Posted February 21, 2013 Did they write on the road for T2L though? I think they did. I remember an interview where Matt and/or Dom mentioned that they were writing on this tour (TR Tour) unlike the last one (BH&R tour). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
altbecky Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Hmm. I thought I heard Dom say just the opposite. That they had not worked on anything at all on the road because they wanted to close the book on what they were touring on, and start with something fresh when it was all over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted February 22, 2013 Share Posted February 22, 2013 Hmm. I thought I heard Dom say just the opposite. That they had not worked on anything at all on the road because they wanted to close the book on what they were touring on, and start with something fresh when it was all over... Yeah same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Offender Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I used to hate it. I bought it the day it came out, and it was the reason I stopped caring about Muse. But lately I've been giving it a lot more consideration, and even though it doesn't compare to the first four albums, it's actually a decent record. Pretentious as hell, but still decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn. Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I always liked The Resistance, and still do. To me Uprising don't aged well and always remind me of Call Me, and Resistance is just ok, but then, i have: Undisclosed Desires - Great album track, not very Muse style but very delicate. United States of Eurasia - One of my favourites piano songs of Muse, love the arab chords and the 1984-like story. Guiding Light - Cheese at its best. The solo is damm good, and a little bit of cheese is welcome, any fan of pasta could tell. Unnatural Selection - A beast, the middle part is brutal between the heavyness of the rest of the song. MK Ultra - The daughter of Micro Cuts and Map of the Problematique, maybe the best live song of the album. I Belong to You - It was hated mainly thanks to that glitter movie, but is a fun song, i guess. Exogenesis - Not precisely standard rock but maybe the most brilliant composition of Matt, enough said. That is song by song, but listening the whole album at once enhance the experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim59 Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I still prefer it as a whole to The 2nd Law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I listened to this for the first time in maybe a couple of years yesterday. Without uprising and guiding light it's a good album IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Compared to T2L, TRs highs and higher but its lows are lower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 Compared to T2L, TRs highs and higher but its lows are lower. I feel the opposite actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 The real problem with both T2L and TR for me is that they lack highs. Compared to BH&R, there is nothing on those albums that is as good as MoTP, SMBH, CoD, KoC, Hoodoo or TaB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Offender Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 The real problem with both T2L and TR for me is that they lack highs. Compared to BH&R, there is nothing on those albums that is as good as MoTP, SMBH, CoD, KoC, Hoodoo or TaB. Agreed. Well, maybe Panic Station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazzr Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I would take a guess that a three part symphony in any album would probably tend to be quite divisive among fans. Also as mentioned the general meh feeling and songs like IBTY, Eurasia and GL dont help either as people obvs focus on them as it only has 2 good songs (US and Mk ultra) and 2 decent but temptingly skippable ones (uprising and resistance).And although I like exogenesis I would count it more as 1 track rather than 3 and I still wouldnt choose to listen to it specifically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 The real problem with both T2L and TR for me is that they lack highs. Compared to BH&R, there is nothing on those albums that is as good as MoTP, SMBH, CoD, KoC, Hoodoo or TaB. But IS and Animals are just as good IS especially. Madness too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 I would take a guess that a three part symphony in any album would probably tend to be quite divisive among fans. Also as mentioned the general meh feeling and songs like IBTY, Eurasia and GL dont help either as people obvs focus on them as it only has 2 good songs (US and Mk ultra) and 2 decent but temptingly skippable ones (uprising and resistance).And although I like exogenesis I would count it more as 1 track rather than 3 and I still wouldnt choose to listen to it specifically. Exo was probably the least divisive part of the album though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 18, 2014 Share Posted May 18, 2014 But IS and Animals are just as good IS especially. Madness too. Nah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 19, 2014 Share Posted May 19, 2014 Yeah. I'm glad you agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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