serpentsatellite Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Honestly, I can understand postponing them... but totally cancelling them DOES seem really shitty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Wow. I really hope the band make their own, personal public statement and apologize. The really, REALLY should re-schedule the shows. If it's a matter of logistics -- like they can't get they're umpteen zillion trucks with the stage set-up there at the end of the current tour, then they should do the gigs without the elaborate stage set up. Period. Hopefully they'll come out and say something by tomorrow. They really need to take a lesson from Brandon Flowers and the Killers, who were very apologetic and did reschedule after the Manchester incident. If they do neither, then there's no way around it. Muse are dicks, and they're heads have hopelessly and completely disappeared up their asses. Jeez the poor guy is probably in some degree of pain and all some people can think of is how much they should apologise. It was an accident. Shit happens. Some people will miss out on a two and a half hour gig. It's not the end of the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Jeez the poor guy is probably in some degree of pain and all some people can think of is how much they should apologise. It was an accident. Shit happens. Some people will miss out on a two and a half hour gig. It's not the end of the world. Lots of people who might have even done a lot of planning to set aside dates or even travel are disappointed. Yes he is in pain and I understand why he would cancel but in any form of professionalism you don't just flat out cancel an event that big and leave it at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uccellino Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Lots of people who might have even done a lot of planning to set aside dates or even travel are disappointed. Yes he is in pain and I understand why he would cancel but in any form of professionalism you don't just flat out cancel an event that big and leave it at that. Yep, people are gonna be out of pocket because of travel arrangements they can't get refunds for added to the huge disappointment of a gig they were really looking forward to. I feel really sorry for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piranhaconda Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I'm going to have to leave Sweden to catch them at this rate. It's not really anyone's fault but it still blows and I hope they add a date seeing as how there's nothing going on here next year either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Jeez the poor guy is probably in some degree of pain and all some people can think of is how much they should apologise. It was an accident. Shit happens. Some people will miss out on a two and a half hour gig. It's not the end of the world. Muse shouldn't apologise, they should play the fucking gig since two broken toes isn't stopping him from playing or singing. And I've spent more money on travels and getting a place to stay than I have on the two tickets that I've gotten refunded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Lots of people who might have even done a lot of planning to set aside dates or even travel are disappointed. Yes he is in pain and I understand why he would cancel but in any form of professionalism you don't just flat out cancel an event that big and leave it at that. They didn't just flat out cancel though. Matt let us know what had happened followed by a tweet from Muse apologising for the cancellation. They have already apologised. What more do people want, for Muse to grovel for our forgiveness? It's a shame and it's shitty that people who have booked travel etc have lost out. It is hardly a crime though. Just an unfortunate accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 They didn't just flat out cancel though. Matt let us know what had happened followed by a tweet from Muse apologising for the cancellation. They have already apologised. What more do people want, for Muse to grovel for our forgiveness? He means that they should at least mention that they will try to give us another gig... Three cancelled shows in Sweden and not a word about a new date after either of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyena17 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yep, people are gonna be out of pocket because of travel arrangements they can't get refunds for added to the huge disappointment of a gig they were really looking forward to. I feel really sorry for them Yeah, this will be me if they cancel Hamburg, etc. That's a hefty non-refundable plane ticket from the US. Here's to hoping for a quick recovery. And yeah I think asking for an apology is a bit much -- they hate having to do this, I'm sure. I feel so bad for the people this is affecting, I hope they make it up to you somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 They didn't just flat out cancel though. Matt let us know what had happened followed by a tweet from Muse apologising for the cancellation. They have already apologised. What more do people want, for Muse to grovel for our forgiveness? Maybe something more professional and explanatory than a tweet and quick article? Maybe at least signs that they're trying for a reschedule? Again, I know this is out of their control for a large part, but it's about 80 thousand people that have been put into different levels of their own complications due to this. It's not just like cancelling a lunch meeting or something. Just some official sign they're going to try and reschedule would be good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uccellino Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 They have apologised which is only natural, but going an extra step and giving some assurance that some kind of replacement gig will happen in the future would be a nice acknowledgement of the disappointment and costs that the Swedish fans have been left with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¨*Starlight*¨ Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 They have apologised which is only natural, but going an extra step and giving some assurance that some kind of replacement gig will happen in the future would be a nice acknowledgement of the disappointment and costs that the Swedish fans have been left with. AND the Norwegian...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Muse shouldn't apologise, they should play the fucking gig since two broken toes isn't stopping him from playing or singing. And I've spent more money on travels and getting a place to stay than I have on the two tickets that I've gotten refunded. Matt really could easily have a doctor tape his toes up and get a cortisone injection and do the shows. American football players play with broken bones all the time. I guess he's just not that dedicated. This incident really spotlights Matt's "fuck it" attitude and lack of work ethic. Sippe is right. It's a broken toe -- not even a BIG toe. His hands aren't broken. I'm really starting to think Matt's a dick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 AND the Norwegian...! It's just that technically, Malmö is the third Swedish gig in a row that they've cancelled. But yes, Norway is getting no attention at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Matt really could easily have a doctor tape his toes up and get a cortisone injection and do the shows. American football players play with broken bones all the time. I guess he's just not that dedicated. This incident really spotlights Matt's "fuck it" attitude and lack of work ethic. Sippe is right. It's a broken toe -- not even a BIG toe. His hands aren't broken. I'm really starting to think Matt's a dick. If I can participate during PE with a broken toe, Matt can sit down and play guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Morgan is already his piano and guitar. Can't he be Matt's foot too for a few gigs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
¨*Starlight*¨ Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 It's just that technically, Malmö is the third Swedish gig in a row that they've cancelled. But yes, Norway is getting no attention at all I know but we're gutted toooooooo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I know but we're gutted toooooooo!!! And you're getting a stadium gig. Guess who aren't getting one :'( Not that I would have gone anyway, hate stadium gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 (edited) Matt really could easily have a doctor tape his toes up and get a cortisone injection and do the shows. American football players play with broken bones all the time. I guess he's just not that dedicated. This incident really spotlights Matt's "fuck it" attitude and lack of work ethic. Sippe is right. It's a broken toe -- not even a BIG toe. His hands aren't broken. I'm really starting to think Matt's a dick. If you look at medical advice sites, it says either to keep weight off the foot for 10 days, or 4 to 6 weeks in the one I saw. If American footballers are foolhardy enough to compromise their health, that's up to them, but personally I think it's reasonable that Matt doesn't want to do the same to play gigs. Disappointing and upsetting for those who were due to attend I can understand but it's not exactly a life or death situation. It would be nice to show Matt some sympathy as well, so to say that's down to a "fuck it" attitude or that Matt is a dick is...well there aren't words. Anyway, no point carrying on the argument. Get well soon Matt. Edited November 29, 2012 by CarrieB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Lack of work ethic. I've never known a band that tours as much as Muse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty987 Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Just some official sign they're going to try and reschedule would be good enough for me. I think your all jumping the gun far too soon. I know it's a major inconvenience and dissapointment to thousands of people. But the most important thing to Muse and Muse management is Matt getting himself sorted, followed by announcing it as quick as possible to ensure people don't travel. They can't just pluck gigs out of their arses, tours of this size are planned a good year beforehand and work on the basis of nothing going wrong. So they can't just say "were rescheduling it for the week after" because they are somewhere else in the world. Especially in Europe. The European gigs are packed in so tightly that any major mishap like this cannot be corrected, compared to the Japanese gigs which they have to allow themselves days in advance just to get stuff transported in time, which then gives the band a day or so leeway in case of any 'unforseen circumstances', as happened this year. Yes, it would be great if they said "we will be rescheduling the dates in the future" but they aren't going to say something which they may not be able to follow up on for a year or more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 If you look at medical advice sites, it says either to keep weight off the foot for 10 days, or 4 to 6 weeks in the one I saw. If American footballers are foolhardy enough to compromise their health, that's up to them, but personally I think it's reasonable that Matt doesn't want to do the same to play gigs. It's not exactly a live or death situation, so to say that's down to a "fuck it" attitude or that Matt is a dick is well... there aren't words.And you really think American footballers are making those decisions on their own? They wouldn't be allowed to set foot(hah) on the field if the medical staff didn't allow it. The fact that you seem to have found one source that says 10 days and another one that says 6 weeks says it all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 I think your all jumping the gun far too soon. I know it's a major inconvenience and dissapointment to thousands of people. But the most important thing to Muse and Muse management is Matt getting himself sorted, followed by announcing it as quick as possible to ensure people don't travel. They can't just pluck gigs out of their arses, tours of this size are planned a good year beforehand and work on the basis of nothing going wrong. So they can't just say "were rescheduling it for the week after" because they are somewhere else in the world. Especially in Europe. The European gigs are packed in so tightly that any major mishap like this cannot be corrected, compared to the Japanese gigs which they have to allow themselves days in advance just to get stuff transported in time, which then gives the band a day or so leeway in case of any 'unforseen circumstances', as happened this year. Yes, it would be great if they said "we will be rescheduling the dates in the future" but they aren't going to say something which they may not be able to follow up on for a year or more. "We'll try to reschedule the gig" problem solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yes, it would be great if they said "we will be rescheduling the dates in the future" but they aren't going to say something which they may not be able to follow up on for a year or more. I do agree with the part that they can't just get gigs from thin air. I still think there's a chance they're probably planning some reschedule and are waiting for a good time to announce, but even just saying "We'll try to reschedule" is better than nothing at all, no? I was mainly responding to the comment that people shouldn't be asking anything of them. Also I think the Denver show was rescheduled months afterwards last tour. Could be the same this time. But then again it is Sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemsy Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Seriously. I know you're all heartbroken and all, but can you seriously, seriously imagine him going, "Oh yesss, it's broken! thanks doc, that means I can have time off, fuck Sweden up the arse and balls to those thousands of people, lol in your face." no. Nothing of the size and stature of a Muse gig would be cancelled lightly. C'mon now. It'll probably cost them a lot of money to cancel them now, as well. Damn, I'm glad I only have 4 or 5 customers to let down when I'm sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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