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How would you change The 2nd Law?


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I got rid of Big Freeze for one listen to hear how it sounds and loved so much more, definitely deserved the spot above BHaR, TR, and Showbiz.

 

Trying to find a place to put Explorers right now though, any suggestions? The tracks leading up to it are amazing but it kind of brings the awesomeness to a halt to just a pretty good song. I'm not gonna get rid of it though! BTW, I made Unsustainable the opener and Supremacy before IS.

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After playing around with it for a bit I have arrived at this tracklist:

 

01 The 2nd Law: Unsustainable

02 Panic Station

03 Madness

04 Big Freeze

05 Liquid State

06 Save Me

07 Supremacy

08 The 2nd Law: Isolated System

09 Animals

10 Prelude

11 Survival

 

Explorers and Follow Me are definitely not good enough for me. Don't feel the urge to ever hear them again. I kind of want to get rid of Big Freeze und Liquid State as well but I'm keeping atm to at least have 40min of music. Save me is a tough one. I love that it sounds a bit like Porcupine Tree. A PT b side, though. I like the other songs. Survival and Animals are epic.

 

Still probably the worst Muse album.

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Glad I'm not alone in being reasonably disappointed with the latest offering. It seems like almost every track has sampling from news clips, robots, autotuned to within an inch of it's life - bring back the Matt that wrote Bliss, Newborn, KOC etc. I've listened to it through a couple of times now and can't pick one song that I can even begin to fall in love with.

 

I quite liked Panic station but the more I listen to it, the more forced Matts voice sounds. I did however like the fact that Chris has a couple of his own songs on there - he's got quite a nice voice and sounded great.

 

Still looking forward to the O2 at the end of the month but hoping it's better live

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Cut the following songs:

 

Madness

Follow Me

Explorers

Big Freeze

Save Me

Isolated Systems

 

Supremacy - redo the verse vocal melody/guitar solo (It is way too close to endlessly) maybe cut the bond stuff at the end

 

Prelude/Survival - Make it one track write better melodies and lyrics

 

Animals - change the lyrics and cut the noise at the end

 

Liquid State - add a bridge and an awesome ending

 

Unsustainable - get rid of the talking and the robot voice and add more dubstep/orchestra parts. Maybe add lyrics.

 

replace all cut songs with better songs and write a better follow up to unsustainable.

 

I guess Panic Station was the only one I don't want to change.

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I'm currently going with:

 

Unsustainable

Prelude

Survival

Madness

Big Freeze

Follow Me

Save Me

Animals

Panic Station

Supremacy

Liquid State

Explorers

Isolated System

 

The first 8 tracks flow really well, as does Explorers into IS. I also edited the start/stop times of LS and Supremacy, as LS starts with four sharp notes and Supremacy starts with four sharp notes too

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Cut the following songs:

 

Madness

Follow Me

Explorers

Big Freeze

Save Me

Isolated Systems

 

Supremacy - redo the verse vocal melody/guitar solo (It is way too close to endlessly) maybe cut the bond stuff at the end

 

Prelude/Survival - Make it one track write better melodies and lyrics

 

Animals - change the lyrics and cut the noise at the end

 

Liquid State - add a bridge and an awesome ending

 

Unsustainable - get rid of the talking and the robot voice and add more dubstep/orchestra parts. Maybe add lyrics.

 

replace all cut songs with better songs and write a better follow up to unsustainable.

 

I guess Panic Station was the only one I don't want to change.

 

Stay away from Isolated System.

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Just my personal opinion:

 

I do like the 2nd law. It is fresh and I have the feeling that the band had really grown up... They are pushing their limits of making music. There are some pop songs and some funk songs, some heavy stuff, some dubstep, and some "oldschool Muse" moments.

I do not wish to agree with the tons of fans raging about missing OOS, Absolution, BHAR, Resistance, etc... As the people forming Muse are all artists, they have the right to write new material, carry out musical experiments, change and mature. They are not here to satisfy all of us, they are not prostitutes. I think -- as fans -- we are here to support Muse, not to have expectations or requests...

 

You are doing well, Muse! Go on! :-)

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Probably a commonish suggestion but having lived with the album for a few days...

 

Supremacy

Madness - still don't love it but weirdly can't imagine the album without it

Panic Station

Animals - without the shouting at the end, just annoys me

Prelude - truncated

Survival

Follow me - minus the moaning bit at the end, my fav song on T2L

Save Me - think FM would flow really well into this thematically

Unsustainable - with a better transition into IS

Isolated System

 

Explorers, Liquid State and Big Freeze don't do anything for me. Fine songs (mostly...looking you Big Freeze) but not what I want from a Muse album. Quite like shorter albums as well, just cos you have the songs doesn't mean you have to put them on the album.

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Cut the following songs:

 

Madness

Follow Me

Explorers

Big Freeze

Save Me

Isolated Systems

 

Supremacy - redo the verse vocal melody/guitar solo (It is way too close to endlessly) maybe cut the bond stuff at the end

 

Prelude/Survival - Make it one track write better melodies and lyrics

 

Animals - change the lyrics and cut the noise at the end

 

Liquid State - add a bridge and an awesome ending

 

Unsustainable - get rid of the talking and the robot voice and add more dubstep/orchestra parts. Maybe add lyrics.

 

replace all cut songs with better songs and write a better follow up to unsustainable.

 

I guess Panic Station was the only one I don't want to change.

 

So basically scrap the album and make a completely different one.

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Scrap it, recall it, divorce the band wrecker Kate Hudson, and go back to the drawing board.

 

This entire album is a nightmare with zero redeeming qualities. Just saw them on SNL and both Christopher Wolstenholme and Dominic Howard looked like they were grimacing after the last song they played. HORNs?!? I mean really, horns?!? The only one who looked benignly pleased was Matt and he looked extremely smug about the catastrophe.

 

This album is a piece of shit, I am almost embarrassed to call myself a Muse fan now. WTF happened here? The only thing I can think of is that someone has got a serious case of "found me some hot ass, pretend to be unique and not a fame whore, piece of pussy".

 

That's it...Matt needs to pull his head out of his anus and hope he and Kate don't tear the band apart. Freakin' god damned shame!

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Scrap it, recall it, divorce the band wrecker Kate Hudson, and go back to the drawing board.

 

This entire album is a nightmare with zero redeeming qualities. Just saw them on SNL and both Christopher Wolstenholme and Dominic Howard looked like they were grimacing after the last song they played. HORNs?!? I mean really, horns?!? The only one who looked benignly pleased was Matt and he looked extremely smug about the catastrophe.

 

This album is a piece of shit, I am almost embarrassed to call myself a Muse fan now. WTF happened here? The only thing I can think of is that someone has got a serious case of "found me some hot ass, pretend to be unique and not a fame whore, piece of pussy".

 

That's it...Matt needs to pull his head out of his anus and hope he and Kate don't tear the band apart. Freakin' god damned shame!

 

Hudson doesn't have shit to do with the album's quality.

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Scrap it, recall it, divorce the band wrecker Kate Hudson, and go back to the drawing board.

 

This entire album is a nightmare with zero redeeming qualities. Just saw them on SNL and both Christopher Wolstenholme and Dominic Howard looked like they were grimacing after the last song they played. HORNs?!? I mean really, horns?!? The only one who looked benignly pleased was Matt and he looked extremely smug about the catastrophe.

 

This album is a piece of shit, I am almost embarrassed to call myself a Muse fan now. WTF happened here? The only thing I can think of is that someone has got a serious case of "found me some hot ass, pretend to be unique and not a fame whore, piece of pussy".

 

That's it...Matt needs to pull his head out of his anus and hope he and Kate don't tear the band apart. Freakin' god damned shame!

This is actually hilarious :chuckle:.

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