Indyjones445 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Make Unsustainable the first track, then have it transition into Supremacy. The rest of the tracklist is fine. I just hate how Isolated System comes after Unsustainable, its so out of place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Animals The guy with OoS as an avatar doesn't like the song that is the closest to OoS. I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic Syndrome Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 The guy with OoS as an avatar doesn't like the song that is the closest to OoS. I see. this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edeslash Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 One day I'll get around to doing the musical research and writing something proper on why the ending of Isolated System should not be changed in lieu of some big explosive climax. One day. The world ends with a whimper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chryse Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Just the order, and maybe make Explorers more interesting I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travisx2112 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 I removed Unsustainable from my iPod. I would also have preferred that Follow Me wasn't touched by Nero, as it seems out of place. It's alright though. Anywho, with Unsustainable gone, I like the album a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolic Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Side note.. anyone else think that the chorus to panic station sounds a bit like THRILLER? The, 'When its came to sacrifice imagination ' part reminds me a lot of '..but terror takes the sound before you make it'. Just me? I remember thinking that on my first listen. Decent tune still. I've been saying that on here since last friday.. So no, not just you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Niall I tried your order and it worked even better (I love the album as it is already ) Madness > Follow Me > Save Me is perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
espionage Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 There are a lot of things I'd change, but I'd take out "Save Me" and "Liquid State". Neither song fits the Muse style or the style of the rest of the album. Maybe Chris could have done a solo project instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tesseract Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I took some ideas from a couple different people to make my own order of the album, and so far I really love it like this. Unsustainable Prelude Survival Madness Panic Station Follow Me Big Freeze Save Me Explorers Animals Liquid State Supremacy Isolated System Unsustainable through Madness are placed there for the same reasons Niall suggested, and it works very well indeed. I put Panic Station next because it's just so FUN and just feels like it fits earlier in the album as opposed to later. To follow that dancy theme, Follow Me is next. Big Freeze is a light-hearted, upbeat song before the wind-down to the much more mellow section with Save Me and Explorers. I felt at least one of Chris' songs should be earlier on instead of both being just tacked on at the end, like Niall was saying. After Matt says "Go to sleep," Animals starts to build things back up again. It feels like a natural progression thematically, where Explorers is a mellow song reflecting on the state of the world until the point where he can't take it anymore and starts to get angry about it. Liquid State into Supremacy completes the buildup to all-out chaos, and then Isolated System provides an excellent coda, continuing the theme that Unsustainable introduced and bringing it to its depressing conclusion as the universe dies. I've thought way too much about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killer Rabbit Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 I found out today that Unsustainable into Supremacy into Liquid State works well and sounds rather good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebby aka pup Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Prelude Survival Panic Station Madness Explorers Animals Liquid State Big Freeze Save Me Supremacy Isolated System Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onemoreemptychair Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 This is how I have it set up on my playlist, because the track listing of T2L makes next to no sense to me as it is 1. T2L: Unsustainable 2. Supremacy 3. Liquid State 4. Big Freeze 5. Prelude 6. Survival 7. Madness 8. Panic Station 9. Follow Me 10. Save Me 11. Animals 12. Explorers 13. T2L: Isolated System I think it just seems to flow better this way. Putting Chris's two songs together, and the "2nd Law" tracks together sounds awful! They sound far too jarring ... which may be the point of course but I like it my way Edit: It would also be nice if Unsustainable transitioned into Supremacy, but I can't have everything in life I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Unsustainable Supremacy Liquid State Panic Station Prelude Survival Explorers Madness Follow Me Save Me Big Freeze Animals Isolated System I like this one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alesi08 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 End Follow me with arpeggios that fades out after he sing my love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Unsustainable Supremacy Liquid State Panic Station Prelude Survival Explorers Madness Follow Me Save Me Big Freeze Animals Isolated System I like this one too. Gonna have a little fiddle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Ok, this is what I now have and will probably stick with. T2L: Unsustainable Supremacy Liquid State Panic Station Madness Prelude Survival Follow Me Explorers Big Freeze Save Me Animals T2L: Isolated System This seems to work well in terms of themes, and flow too. Unsustainable Supremacy Liquid State Panic Station Prelude Survival Explorers Madness Follow Me Save Me Big Freeze Animals Isolated System I like this one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Ummm....... Scrap the whole album except for Animals and Supremacy. Re-record Supremacy without the orchestra, and add in more raunchy guitar. Then.... Lock the three of them in a rehearsal studio with just guitar bass and drums. Supply them with a bunch of magic mushrooms and coffee. Don't let them out until they've rediscovered why they're in a band, and what they're supposed to do with their instruments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Lock the three of them in a rehearsal studio with just guitar bass and drums. Supply them with a bunch of magic mushrooms and coffee. Don't let them out until they've rediscovered why they're in a band, and what they're supposed to do with their instruments. A.k.a. "I just really want to listen to OoS again". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 A.k.a. "I just really want to listen to OoS again". And what makes you think they'd write OoS all over again under those circumstances? My point is that on T2L, instead of writing great songs, they've writing crap songs and decorated them with with gimmicks. My joke thought is to take away the gimmicks, and give them something to boost creativity. Tis all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 And what makes you think they'd write OoS all over again under those circumstances? My point is that on T2L, instead of writing great songs, they've writing crap songs and decorated them with with gimmicks. My joke thought is to take away the gimmicks, and give them something to boost creativity. Tis all. I'm beginning to think that the fact that Muse had two incredibly good albums is a fluke. I listened to OoS again today, and find myself asking, "Why Muse? Why? Why can't you just write great songs like these and play them on guitar, piano, bass and drums? Why all the silly fluff and electronics?" RIP Muse. :'( Hmmm....I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Hmmm....I wonder. ??? Quoting me doesn't answer the question as to why you think they'd write OoS again under those circumstances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic Syndrome Posted September 27, 2012 Share Posted September 27, 2012 Try mine damn it! 1. Supremacy 2. Panic Station 3. Madness 4. Prelude 5. Survival 6. Animals 7. Follow Me 8. Explorers 9. Save Me 10. Big Freeze 11. Liquid State 12. Unsustainable 13. Isolated System Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bells Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 I changed the order too. Unsustainable Prelude Survival Madness Panic Station Big Freeze Follow Me Explorers Save Me Animals Liquid State Supremacy Isolated System This is working fantastically for me. It makes more sense this way and, wow, making Supremacy the opener really was a bad idea, and Supremacy followed by Madness was an even worse idea, haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corona Radiata Posted September 29, 2012 Share Posted September 29, 2012 Make Supremacy more like the live version - give it a little more punch Change the vocals in Madness in the first half and get rid of the cringey "hmm" thing after the first verse Take the vocal effect out of the "TROLL" in Panic Station Make Prelude much longer Make Survival a little less cheesy - probably kill the choir Change everything before the first chorus in Follow Me completely Get rid of the riot sound effects in Animals Less "free me"s in Explorers and change the structure of the chorus a little Make some of the backing vocals in Big Freeze a little less gayish Trim Save Me a little Make Liquid State longer and turn it into a Dream Theater-like prog metal assault after the second chorus Fix the ending slide in Unsustainable and make it flow better into Isolated System Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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