Dee3Dee Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I won't lie. I was, at first, horrified to see how high The 2nd Law was ranking for some people. That was quickly replaced, however, by seeing how low resistance was coming in! What the hell guise?! Resistance, as a song, is epic. Uprising is a classic too. Then guiding light is nice, and USoE is kickass! No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt382 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 No. SRSLY! WHY?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 SRSLY! WHY?! SRSLY! BECAUSE IT'S SHIT. Omg!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt382 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 SRSLY! BECAUSE IT'S SHIT. Omg!!!! Dunno, man. It seems like a risky assertion. I can't see any obvious reason for disliking it. Indeed, it probably holds 50% of my favourite Muse tracks. The 2nd Law on the other hand... I heard some samples of a few tracks before it came out and was in the minority within my friends, in that I expected to enjoy the new style. Ironically, I didn't and my friends did. I think the only tracks I'd actually want to listen to again are Survival and Madness, which is saying something because they aren't great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musekiddo Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I wouldn't call it hate, just a lack of many standout songs. My favourites from it are Uno, Muscle Museum (which I don't rank terribly highly), Sunburn (great) and Spiral Static (Amazing, but isn't even on the regular studio album). But at least it's an album and not a collection of random songs thrown together like T2L. T2L does have some good moments (Supremacy, Survival, Animals, Save Me) but Supremacy into Madness WTF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloudent Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Oos > TR > Abso > bh&r / showbiz > 2nd lawl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Dunno, man. It seems like a risky assertion. I can't see any obvious reason for disliking it. Indeed, it probably holds 50% of my favourite Muse tracks. The 2nd Law on the other hand... I heard some samples of a few tracks before it came out and was in the minority within my friends, in that I expected to enjoy the new style. Ironically, I didn't and my friends did. I think the only tracks I'd actually want to listen to again are Survival and Madness, which is saying something because they aren't great. Oh look, you can type. TR was just way too inconsistent in terms of song quality. It's an album that just doesn't translate well live either, whereas most of the songs on T2L could work very well live. And if you can't enjoy the massive lolz that is Panic Station then I feel sorry for you. Just dance your face off, and then go listen to Animals and Supremacy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella79 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I won't lie. I was, at first, horrified to see how high The 2nd Law was ranking for some people. That was quickly replaced, however, by seeing how low resistance was coming in! What the hell guise?! Resistance, as a song, is epic. Uprising is a classic too. Then guiding light is nice, and USoE is kickass! I will admit to quite liking Resistance and Uprising, but epic/classic they are NOT! The ONLY really great song on TR imo is MK Ultra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vico0527 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I will admit to quite liking Resistance and Uprising, but epic/classic they are NOT! The ONLY really great song on TR imo is MK Ultra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MandaF Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I couldn't decide off the top of my head, so I had to write out all the songs I think are fucking ace and do it solely on a numbers game 1. Abso / Origin (7 songs I adore on each album) 2. The 2nd Law (6) 3. BH&R / Showbiz (4) 4. TR (2, because I count Exogenesis as just one big song) I liked this idea, so I thought I would give it a go - despite the fact that I haven't heard T2L yet so probably shouldn't even be here. OoS - I like 9, adore 3 BH&R/Abso - like 8 each, adore 4 each Showbiz - like 8, adore 3 TR - like 6, adore 2 (Exo = 1 song for me) This list is in direct contradiction to what my 'gut feeling' list was on the other thread, where OoS was last (ish). Very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt382 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Oh look, you can type. TR was just way too inconsistent in terms of song quality. It's an album that just doesn't translate well live either, whereas most of the songs on T2L could work very well live. And if you can't enjoy the massive lolz that is Panic Station then I feel sorry for you. Just dance your face off, and then go listen to Animals and Supremacy again. Yes, I can type, m'good man. Fair enough. "Everyone has their opinion" etc. Still don't quite understand the inconsistency remark. I see no evidence of that. The album is OK. The major problem I have, is that if I want any of generic funk/dubstep/punk rock (liquid state), then I can just go and find it. Similar songs from those genres are in abundance, whereas Muse's style isn't. I enjoy all of the above styles, I just enjoy Muse for their unique sound. Then again: Perhaps other fans had wanted something new after their apparent (and from my POV; inexplicable) dislike of The Resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Yes, I can type, m'good man. Fair enough. "Everyone has their opinion" etc. Still don't quite understand the inconsistency remark. I see no evidence of that. The album is OK. The major problem I have, is that if I want any of generic funk/dubstep/punk rock (liquid state), then I can just go and find it. Similar songs from those genres are in abundance, whereas Muse's style isn't. I enjoy all of the above styles, I just enjoy Muse for their unique sound. NEWSFLASH: Muse have never really been unique. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 I won't lie. I was, at first, horrified to see how high The 2nd Law was ranking for some people. That was quickly replaced, however, by seeing how low resistance was coming in! What the hell guise?! Resistance, as a song, is epic. Uprising is a classic too. Then guiding light is nice, and USoE is kickass! Epic? What makes "Resistance" epic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Epic? What makes "Resistance" epic? It could be wong, could be wong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spark_ Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Odd choice of standout Muse songs if uniqueness is your thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella79 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Yes, I can type, m'good man. Fair enough. "Everyone has their opinion" etc. Still don't quite understand the inconsistency remark. I see no evidence of that. The album is OK. The major problem I have, is that if I want any of generic funk/dubstep/punk rock (liquid state), then I can just go and find it. Similar songs from those genres are in abundance, whereas Muse's style isn't. I enjoy all of the above styles, I just enjoy Muse for their unique sound. Then again: Perhaps other fans had wanted something new after their apparent (and from my POV; inexplicable) dislike of The Resistance. But they don't have one unique sound, do they? That's what's so great about them - they'll give anything and everything a go, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. TR didn't so much. BH&R didn't so much. T2L is a pretty mixed bag so I think it's pretty hard to pigeon hole it tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt382 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Epic? What makes "Resistance" epic? ... I don't really know how to respond to that. That shouldn't be taken to mean anything, though. If you asked me what makes Bohemian Rhapsody 'epic' I wouldn't be able to answer either, but we know it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 ... I don't really know how to respond to that. That shouldn't be taken to mean anything, though. If you asked me what makes Bohemian Rhapsody 'epic' I wouldn't be able to answer either, but we know it is. Good point actually. I don't know why exactly TR is so shit, but we all know it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloudent Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 It could be wong, could be wong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musefanlondon Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 It's early days and this will definitely change several times before the next album is released but at the moment: 1. Absolution 2. Origin of Symmetry 3. The Resistance 4. The 2nd Law 5. Showbiz 6. Black Holes & Revelations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meep Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 No. This. Also, I don't know about rankings but I guess it's 3rd by default since I like the album, am so so about Showbiz and outright hate BHAR and TR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt382 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 But they don't have one unique sound, do they? That's what's so great about them - they'll give anything and everything a go, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. TR didn't so much. BH&R didn't so much. T2L is a pretty mixed bag so I think it's pretty hard to pigeon hole it tbh. Fine. Let's forget the word "unique" so that you can actually try to put forward an argument. We can take my use of 'unique' to mean that I like the sound that is unique to muse: Heavy distorted bass, sometimes with background classical and Matt Bellamy wailing - or something similar. Is there really dislike for Resistance and BH&R here? Actually... I just had another glance at the BH&R track listing. Starlight is nice. SMBH is so-so. Knights of Cydonia is good. But it isn't ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 We can take my use of 'unique' to mean that I like the sound that is unique to muse: Heavy distorted bass, sometimes with background classical and Matt Bellamy wailing - or something similar. Those sounds aren't unique to Muse though. Not even close. Just switch out Bellamy for another vocalist and you have tons of bands who fit that description, which is quite the opposite of "unique". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Fine. Let's forget the word "unique" so that you can actually try to put forward an argument. We can take my use of 'unique' to mean that I like the sound that is unique to muse: Heavy distorted bass, sometimes with background classical and Matt Bellamy wailing - or something similar. Is there really dislike for Resistance and BH&R here? Actually... I just had another glance at the BH&R track listing. Starlight is nice. SMBH is so-so. Knights of Cydonia is good. But it isn't ideal. No wonder you don't like The 2nd Law considering the songs you define good from Muse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mt382 Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Those sounds aren't unique to Muse though. Not even close. Just switch out Bellamy for another vocalist and you have tons of bands who fit that description, which is quite the opposite of "unique". If we were to swap out Matt Bellamy then the resulting group wouldn't fit my description :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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