Dee3Dee Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 your own incompetence and ignorance. /ninsp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted March 4, 2013 Share Posted March 4, 2013 Filler in TR is Resistance and Guiding Light, I'd say Resistance is good filler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayFan9876 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 And then it has IBTY and UD, both of which are better than the other TR songs you mentioned.Aye. I Belong to You is my favourite thing off The Resistance, actually. Mon Coeur S'ouvre a ta Voix is just so beautifully composed. <3 I think my order would be this: 1. Absolution 2. Black Holes & Revelations 3. The 2nd Law 4. Showbiz 5. The Resistance 6. Origin of Symmetry Yeah, Origin is at the bottom for me. While none of the songs are bad, in fact every single one of them is quite good, none of them stood out for me, which is less than I can say for The Resistance. The 2nd Law got third place here because I found it extraordinarily varied and creative. Not a single song on the album resembles anything before or after it. The reason it isn't higher though is because of its inconsistency; some songs like Madness, Animals and Panic Station were fucking awesome in every way imaginable, but some others were just incredibly unmemorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninsp Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 How does Exogenesis add cohesiveness in any way? and Exogenesis was something that Matt had been working on for years, even before BH&R. To say that it's filler proves nothing but your own incompetence and ignorance. Only like 3 songs on the album actually fit into the theme of the album and so Exogenesis ties the album to the theme of The Resistance. Ah, ad hominem...(aka, I have no argument and don't understand what a "filler track" is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninsp Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 /ninsp Aww, how cute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Only like 3 songs on the album actually fit into the theme of the album and so Exogenesis ties the album to the theme of The Resistance. Ah, ad hominem...(aka, I have no argument and don't understand what a "filler track" is) Filler track is essentially what it sounds like. It's a song the band adds to fill up space on the album in between the ones they really put a lot of effort into. They can be good or bad, but the point is they don't really add much to the album. Guiding Light I'd say is most likely the big filler track on The Resistance as the flow and theme would pretty much not change if it were removed. At least that's what I consider filler. I'd actually say the only track that feels like filler on The 2nd Law is Big Freeze, but that might be just cause they don't give it live attention. Everything else seems to have had a lot of effort. But then the fact the album has no flow might make it harder to distinguish what fits and what doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 So Exogenesis, something they worked on for years and essentially was THE hype for the album, is filler. Right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Only like 3 songs on the album actually fit into the theme of the album and so Exogenesis ties the album to the theme of The Resistance. Ah, ad hominem...(aka, I have no argument and don't understand what a "filler track" is) 1. A filler track is only there to fill up the space so that they can be done with the album and get it out. 2. Exogenesis was worked on for over 5 years, was almost the ONLY song they talked about going into the recording process, and was one of the biggest album hypes during the recording. There is no way that you can understand these two FACTS and still see Exogenesis as a filler. They're basically opposites. EDIT: Also, sometimes I feel like the latin words for fallacies were simply made popular by guys thinking they had a better chance at getting away with arguments that had no factual basis. I've only ever seen them be used by people who either just learned the words 'ad hominem' in school, or just need something clever to take the eyes off the illogical points in their arguments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sade Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Aye. I Belong to You is my favourite thing off The Resistance, actually. Mon Coeur S'ouvre a ta Voix is just so beautifully composed. <3 I don't care for the Mon Coeur S'ouvre a ta Voix part, honestly. If I want to listen to classical music, I won't put on a Muse album. 90% of the time I listen to the "no french" edit (that omits it) I found on Muselive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 I don't care for the Mon Coeur S'ouvre a ta Voix part, honestly. If I want to listen to classical music, I won't put on a Muse album. 90% of the time I listen to the "no french" edit (that omits it) I found on Muselive. The French bit was the best part of seeing it live though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sade Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 It was nice, in particular with Matt being a bit flushed over his French in front of a French audience but on album, it just slows down an otherwise fun track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninsp Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Just because you dislike a track doesn't make it filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Just because you dislike a track doesn't make it filler. ...ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Just because you dislike a track doesn't make it filler. Yeah, go you! Show that guy who thinks Exogenesis is filler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim59 Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 Just because you dislike a track doesn't make it filler. Who said that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lersch Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 1. Oos 2. Showbiz 3. Abso 4. Bhar 5. Tr 6. T2l so many people voting showbiz as their least favorite? Wtf, is this some kind of running gag, or are here really so many people who got to know muse 1/2 year ago and hate their » strange old sound« ? I mean sunburn, mm, cave, showbiz, uni, htaily...come on.. For me t2l has got to be at the bottom, it's just not possible to take this album seriously. Matt singing in an absurdly pretentious way. production just way to clean and over the top. boring drumwork + cheesy lyrics. 2 average songs from chris. Some disgusting pop with madness and especially follow me to make sure to win as many new » fans« as possible. after listening to explorers or big freeze I'm getting so angry that I have to listen to new born, futurism, ss a couple of times to keep my anger under control. In the end there's one decent song with animals and that's it. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 so many people voting showbiz as their least favorite? Wtf, is this some kind of running gag, or are here really so many people who got to know muse 1/2 year ago and hate their » strange old sound« ? I mean sunburn, mm, cave, showbiz, uni, htaily...come on.. Bar Falling Down and Uno, you just named pretty much the only good songs on Showbiz and even then, Unintended's quite average. Granted, it's not my least favourite album like it is for some people (it's my 2nd least favourite), but it's got more bad/average songs on it than any of the other albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangeseas Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 1. Oos 2. Showbiz 3. Abso 4. Bhar 5. Tr 6. T2l so many people voting showbiz as their least favorite? Wtf, is this some kind of running gag, or are here really so many people who got to know muse 1/2 year ago and hate their » strange old sound« ? I mean sunburn, mm, cave, showbiz, uni, htaily...come on.. For me t2l has got to be at the bottom, it's just not possible to take this album seriously. Matt singing in an absurdly pretentious way. production just way to clean and over the top. boring drumwork + cheesy lyrics. 2 average songs from chris. Some disgusting pop with madness and especially follow me to make sure to win as many new » fans« as possible. after listening to explorers or big freeze I'm getting so angry that I have to listen to new born, futurism, ss a couple of times to keep my anger under control. In the end there's one decent song with animals and that's it. :-( For Fabri and Kueller. That is not another my troll account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim59 Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 OOS Abso TR BHaR=T2L Showbiz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lersch Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 No this is no fake account. I just like to know what people dislike so much about showbiz. It may have 1-2 average songs but the rest is surely fantastic and hasn't that been the sound we got to know and love muse? seriously, t2l is just a little bit of everything to kinda please everyone, but in the end it's nothing at all. It's just impossible to take songs like supremacy for real when there songs like explorers on the same record, which could be straight out of a disney soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DifferentPerson Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 No this is no fake account. I just like to know what people dislike so much about showbiz. It may have 1-2 average songs but the rest is surely fantastic and hasn't that been the sound we got to know and love muse? I think the majority of people who dislike Showbiz (myself included) got to know and love Muse through the sound of their later albums (basically Absolution onwards) and probably later went back and discovered OOS and Showbiz. And there aren't exactly 1-2 average songs. Fillip, Unintended, Escape, Sober and Overdue are not that great in my opinion and I know I'm not the only one who thinks that. On the other hand, Sunburn, Muscle Museum and Showbiz are some of the greatest songs Muse have created, but they're not enough to make the album as a whole better than Absolution or BHAR in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strangeseas Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 No this is no fake account. I just like to know what people dislike so much about showbiz. It may have 1-2 average songs but the rest is surely fantastic and hasn't that been the sound we got to know and love muse? seriously, t2l is just a little bit of everything to kinda please everyone, but in the end it's nothing at all. It's just impossible to take songs like supremacy for real when there songs like explorers on the same record, which could be straight out of a disney soundtrack. No, it was nothing against you. There are some points I agree with you. But I think Madness is a pop song done right. Panic Station is good, too. I personally think Survival only works, because of Matt's"pretentious". Supremacy is is a great tune, too. But I agree that Matt's"pretentious" is way too much in songs like Explorers, Big Freeze and Follow. He needs to find the right balance again. Yeah, Chris song could be better. And I'm not keen on the album closer either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 No this is no fake account. I just like to know what people dislike so much about showbiz. Fillip, Sober and Overdue are horrible songs. Unintended and Escape are bad songs. That's almost half of the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 But I agree that Matt's"pretentious" is way too much in songs like Explorers, Big Freeze and Follow. He needs to find the right balance again. Not this again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Fillip Shut up, Fabri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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