Saint Rockwell Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Space Dementia, Apocalypse Please, Ruled by Secrecy, part of Hoodoo, Cross-Pollination, and maybe the mid-section of B&H. It you're counting Hoodoo (which I would as well)...Megalomania, although technically that's organ. I don't know if I would say aggressive but maybe able to channel a particular mood. In that case I'd also add parts of Citizen Erased and the beginning of Soaked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence14 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I bought this today and, as a Muse fan, I am sad to report that it is pretty woeful. It's one thing to make a crappy record but to make one without an identity or a concept seems pointless. My initial thoughts on the songs are: Supremacy - A bond theme Madness - Zooropa era U2 with a Queen solo Panic Station - INXS crossed with Thriller era Michael Jackson Prelude - a snippet of a romantic 50s film soundtrack Survival - Queen again - Flash Gordon era Follow Me - Quite nice, if a little Pet Shop Boys. Bellamy also seems to be channeling Neil Hannon these days. Animals - Better, nice electric-Spanishy guitar too Explorers - Queen - Don't stop me now Big Freeze - Back to impersonating Bono now. Awful, poppy, souless garbage (oh, with an uninspired Queeny solo). Save Me - Melancholic whimsy. Dirge, dirge, dirge, drone, drone, drone Liquid State - Just utterly forgettable... Unsustainable - Dubstep (erm, ok then) Isolated System - Instrumental interlaced with media reportage, would have been acceptable if appended to a good, solid album. A pretty strange little hybrid in all. I think it's certainly their worst album by quite some margin (and I didn't think much of The Resistance). I am all for a band taking a new approach and direction, but this is not what has happened here. There is no direction. This is simply a collection of ripped-off sounds, parodies of influences perhaps, occasional wholesale copying of chord progressions or effects. I don't understand what they are trying to achieve with this. If it's to destroy their credibility as a band then I think they're well on their way to achieving it. Muse are a truly awsome band. Once this tour is over I hope they have a good think about what they want to do in future. One (or two) bad albums doesn't mean the end of a career of course, but it could be the beginning of the end and it needs to be addressed. Look at how terrible U2s output has became with and since All That You Can't Leave Behind. Sometimes a band just loses its motivation and mojo, and dare I say, their muse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meep Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Why does no one like Save Me? I love it. I think its beautiful. I love it, but it doesn't sound that much like Muse so I can see why lots don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the aurora Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I love Save Me and Liquid State but I've found myself skipping both lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chagi Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I love Save Me and Liquid State but I've found myself skipping both lately. Well isn't that odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the aurora Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Well isn't that odd Is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan. Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Save Me is really good, Liquid State is average. -in my opinion- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I bought this today and, as a Muse fan, I am sad to report that it is pretty woeful. It's one thing to make a crappy record but to make one without an identity or a concept seems pointless. My initial thoughts on the songs are: Supremacy - A bond theme Madness - Zooropa era U2 with a Queen solo Panic Station - INXS crossed with Thriller era Michael Jackson Prelude - a snippet of a romantic 50s film soundtrack Survival - Queen again - Flash Gordon era Follow Me - Quite nice, if a little Pet Shop Boys. Bellamy also seems to be channeling Neil Hannon these days. Animals - Better, nice electric-Spanishy guitar too Explorers - Queen - Don't stop me now Big Freeze - Back to impersonating Bono now. Awful, poppy, souless garbage (oh, with an uninspired Queeny solo). Save Me - Melancholic whimsy. Dirge, dirge, dirge, drone, drone, drone Liquid State - Just utterly forgettable... Unsustainable - Dubstep (erm, ok then) Isolated System - Instrumental interlaced with media reportage, would have been acceptable if appended to a good, solid album. A pretty strange little hybrid in all. I think it's certainly their worst album by quite some margin (and I didn't think much of The Resistance). I am all for a band taking a new approach and direction, but this is not what has happened here. There is no direction. This is simply a collection of ripped-off sounds, parodies of influences perhaps, occasional wholesale copying of chord progressions or effects. I don't understand what they are trying to achieve with this. If it's to destroy their credibility as a band then I think they're well on their way to achieving it. Muse are a truly awsome band. Once this tour is over I hope they have a good think about what they want to do in future. One (or two) bad albums doesn't mean the end of a career of course, but it could be the beginning of the end and it needs to be addressed. Look at how terrible U2s output has became with and since All That You Can't Leave Behind. Sometimes a band just loses its motivation and mojo, and dare I say, their muse. I agree with most of that, although I do enjoy around half of the songs. I don't think they need their own directions and not a compilation of tributes to their inspirations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bells Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I love Save Me and Liquid State but I've found myself skipping both lately. Same here. I'm having to wait like 15 minutes after the album finishes playing so I can play these songs so their existence can make some sort of sense... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I count a maximum of six piano songs from their albums that I would consider "agressive" (and not counting anything from T2L being so). Do I have the wrong idea of what an agressive song is? Stuff like Space Dementia, Ruled By Secrecy, Apocalypse Please and Hoodoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spence14 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I agree with most of that, although I do enjoy around half of the songs. I don't think they need their own directions and not a compilation of tributes to their inspirations. I quite like, Supremacy, Madness, Follow Me and Animals but they don't stand up to the best of Muse. The rest of the album is pretty intolerable. Who knows though, maybe it's a grower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furygirl Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Whenever I listen to Survival on the treadmill, I find I want to punch the air Rocky-style during all the riffage. I liked it before, but I like it even better in the context of the album. I do need to figure out a nice re-ordering, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Whenever I listen to Survival on the treadmill, I find I want to punch the air Rocky-style during all the riffage. I liked it before, but I like it even better in the context of the album. I do need to figure out a nice re-ordering, though. Try this: Unsustainable Prelude Survival Panic Station Madness Follow Me Big Freeze Save Me Explorers Supremacy Liquid State Animals Isolated System Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beibi Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Whenever I listen to Survival on the treadmill, I find I want to punch the air Rocky-style during all the riffage. I liked it before, but I like it even better in the context of the album. I do need to figure out a nice re-ordering, though. Unsustainable Supremacy Prelude Survival Explorers Liquid State Big Freeze Panic Station Follow Me Madness Save Me Animals Isolated System That really works for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Don't really care if Save Me and Liquid State don't sound like Muse. The problem is that they don't sound good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxyous Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 People are stupid. A band's song is defined by their output, and as such, all their output represents their sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Save Me is beautiful, really nice melancholic, dreamy soundscape. Liquid State is a good track, but just cus of the riffs really, it's not up to other Muse song standards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Save Me is beautiful, really nice melancholic, dreamy soundscape. Liquid State is a good track, but just cus of the riffs really, it's not up to other Muse song standards. My problem is that pretty much everything about the song is incredibly generic, including the riff. Weird, lots of people were anticipating it to be one of the best on the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 The vocals are actually the best thing with Liquid State imo. The rest is very meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 My problem is that pretty much everything about the song is incredibly generic, including the riff. Weird, lots of people were anticipating it to be one of the best on the album. Indeed. I guess this is a testimony to heavy not = good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I like Liquid State a lot. Especially the vocals, but the whole mood is great imo, so heavy and haunting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim59 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Unsustainable Supremacy Prelude Survival Explorers Liquid State Big Freeze Panic Station Follow Me Madness Save Me Animals Isolated System That really works for me This is probably the best I've seen so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FutureStar- Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Has anyone looked at the numbers etched on the vinyl? Mine says my name! Was pretty taken aback... I knew they wrote catalogue numbers on there but not names! EDIT: Wait... they all say Matt on them apparently. Curse my common name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EXOPOLITICIAN Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Has anyone looked at the numbers etched on the vinyl? Mine says my name! Was pretty taken aback... I knew they wrote catalogue numbers on there but not names! EDIT: Wait... they all say Matt on them apparently. Curse my common name... Imagine that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Has anyone looked at the numbers etched on the vinyl? Mine says my name! Was pretty taken aback... I knew they wrote catalogue numbers on there but not names! EDIT: Wait... they all say Matt on them apparently. Curse my common name... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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