Jedi of Cydonia Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I love how the reviewers of the song in the song descriptions didn't know what the fuck they were talking about it when they said the song is in 6/8. They must have just been like "Sounds like a really complex time signature. Must be 6/8!":LOL: I'm pretty sure it is in 5/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I love how the reviewers of the song in the song descriptions didn't know what the fuck they were talking about it when they said the song is in 6/8. They must have just been like "Sounds like a really complex time signature. Must be 6/8!":LOL: I'm pretty sure it is in 5/4 Yes it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FutureStar- Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I love how the reviewers of the song in the song descriptions didn't know what the fuck they were talking about it when they said the song is in 6/8. They must have just been like "Sounds like a really complex time signature. Must be 6/8!":LOL: I'm pretty sure it is in 5/4 It's definitely 5 beats per bar, but the beats sound more like 8th notes rather than quarter notes unless the tempo is pretty quick? EDIT: No, you're right actually. xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nipso Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 How the fuck do you people know what time signature a song is in??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi of Cydonia Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 It's definitely 5 beats per bar, but the beats sound more like 8th notes rather than quarter notes unless the tempo is pretty quick? EDIT: No, you're right actually. xD Yeah in 5/4 the tempo would be around 170 which is fast though not like an impossible tempo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dylb88 Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 How the fuck do you people know what time signature a song is in??? you listen to it....and you count and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FutureStar- Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Yeah in 5/4 the tempo would be around 170 which is fast though not like an impossible tempo. Yeaah, that's a lot for a song that sounds like it's being played at a moderate tempo. Must feel like that because of the drum rhythm. So good! EDIT: The snare rhythm when the first 'heavy bit' comes in. How does he move that fast!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi of Cydonia Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 How the fuck do you people know what time signature a song is in??? I personally just try counting and lining up the beats with patterns/phrases that repeat. On this song the drum set is playing a really clear 5/4 if you listen to it. It's really easy to count 1 2 3 4 5 along to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DifferentPerson Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 How the fuck do you people know what time signature a song is in??? Count how many beats there are in a bar. For example, listen to the Agitated outro riff and try counting 1-2-3-4 as it repeats and you will see it doesn't work. Try 1-2-3-4-5 instead and it will fit the rhythm perfectly, thus it is in 5/4 time. I hope that helps, 'cause explaining musical terms to a non musician is hard edit: also what Jedi of Cydonia said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi of Cydonia Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Actually, well correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure 5/8 and 5/4 are essentially the same, just different ways to write the music with 5/8 being each beat is an eighth note and 5/4 each note is a quarter note. So technically it could be either of those or even 5/2 or 5/1 or 5/16, it just depends on how you want to write it. 5/4 is the most common quintuple meter though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FutureStar- Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Actually, well correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure 5/8 and 5/4 are essentially the same, just different ways to write the music with 5/8 being each beat is an eighth note and 5/4 each note is a quarter note. So technically it could be either of those or even 5/2 or 5/1 or 5/16, it just depends on how you want to write it. 5/4 is the most common quintuple meter though. Yeah... that is correct, the second number is just the length of the beat. In that case, it could actually be 5/8... it would be completely based on the time signature. 5/1 wouldn't work for this song, that would imply a 5 bar cycle, and it's not that..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshyBarth Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 It also has a polyrhythm near the end where the guitars etc are still in 5/4, but the drums go into 4/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FutureStar- Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 It also has a polyrhythm near the end where the guitars etc are still in 5/4, but the drums go into 4/4 That is excellent. I would struggle so much to play a bass line in 5/4 with drums in 4/4. xD Actually... I've played a 6/8 rhythm in 4/4 before... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Actually... I've played a 6/8 rhythm in 4/4 before... 6/8 better translates to 2/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Actually, well correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure 5/8 and 5/4 are essentially the same, just different ways to write the music with 5/8 being each beat is an eighth note and 5/4 each note is a quarter note. So technically it could be either of those or even 5/2 or 5/1 or 5/16, it just depends on how you want to write it. 5/4 is the most common quintuple meter though. Technically yes, but listen to the accents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FutureStar- Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 6/8 better translates to 2/4 Yes, you're right because 6 can be divided by 2 and not 4. Damn you, AM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hay Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Remember the album cover that had the explicit lyric tag on it? Do you think it could be from the "kill yourselves" part? nahhh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbyun04 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Remember the album cover that had the explicit lyric tag on it? Do you think it could be from the "kill yourselves" part? nahhh... it's the dvd content.. don't you think one of the reviewers would've made a note on an explicit lyric by now? the cd only version doesn't have that label Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spark_ Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Technically yes, but listen to the accents. Yep. There are some subtle differences in how 5/8 tracks/pieces tend to sound compared to 5/4 - generally speaking the choice is made based on which time signature "suits" the song better. As a general rule, 5/8 feels "quicker" than 5/4. And 6/8 is not 2/4. It's 3/4 (though again, it wouldn't quite feel the same). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi of Cydonia Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Yep. There are some subtle differences in how 5/8 tracks/pieces tend to sound compared to 5/4 - generally speaking the choice is made based on which time signature "suits" the song better. As a general rule, 5/8 feels "quicker" than 5/4. And 6/8 is not 2/4. It's 3/4 (though again, it wouldn't quite feel the same). I think I get what you're saying and though 6/8 and 3/4 are related they aren't the same because 6/8 is compound duple and 3/4 is simple triple. Edit: Never mind me if you knew this and I just didn't get what you were saying. Like were you just saying that 6/8 and 3/4 are more interchangeable than 6/8 and 2/4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spark_ Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Yeah basically. Trying to impose a 2/4 rhythm onto a song written for 6/8 would just be utter chaos. 3/4 would sound a little different but it would be workable (in theory, anyway). This is definitely 5/4, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi of Cydonia Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Yeah basically. Trying to impose a 2/4 rhythm onto a song written for 6/8 would just be utter chaos. 3/4 would sound a little different but it would be workable (in theory, anyway). This is definitely 5/4, though. This is the first time (besides Agitated) that Muse has done any song in a non-standard time signature, right? I never really pay attention to what time signature the songs are in but I think I would have noticed if there was a song in something like 5/4 or 7/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patchey Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 This is the first time (besides Agitated) that Muse has done any song in a non-standard time signature, right? I never really pay attention to what time signature the songs are in but I think I would have noticed if there was a song in something like 5/4 or 7/4 Micro Cuts shifts between 4/4 and 6/4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumpypotato Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 This is the first time (besides Agitated) that Muse has done any song in a non-standard time signature, right? I never really pay attention to what time signature the songs are in but I think I would have noticed if there was a song in something like 5/4 or 7/4 I guess you could count Micro Cuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Yeah basically. Trying to impose a 2/4 rhythm onto a song written for 6/8 would just be utter chaos. 3/4 would sound a little different but it would be workable (in theory, anyway). You could do either way. If 2/4 every 3 notes of the 6/4 bar makes a beat (making it a triplet rhythm in 2/4). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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