Aliss Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Yay you. Go to second nights. Yeah, that's what I thought. Hence my ''Oh lawdy" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyduh Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I just don't agree to the whole ''give nothing one night/give two rares the other deal''. No one here does though. We just don't see the point in arguing about it after 3 years of doing it nonstop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Yeah, that's what I thought. Hence my ''Oh lawdy" Did you miss the part where it was a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I just don't agree to the whole ''give nothing one night/give two rares the other deal''. I do understand that shows should have a variety of songs since many people go to more than one show. But a lot of people can only go to one, too. When they started the tour, though, it seems like pretty much every one nighter got at least one song from Showbiz? Go to second nights. It really is that simple I can only go to one night for Emirates so I'm going to the second night, savvy? I don't disagree with you, it's more that complaining isn't gonna get us anywhere. No one here does though. We just don't see the point in arguing about it after 3 years of doing it nonstop. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I might end up trying to get a ticket to the Champions League Final so I might only end up going to night 1. Still, I'd say go to both. If I do go to the Final, I'm bound to miss out on something. The UCL final is on the same night as night 1. It's odd - I thought after the 2nd night at the O2 this time when we got the weaker overall gig, and the Tokyo/LA gigs had balanced sets that the night 1/2 fun was over. But evidently it's now speeding up again, if not quite to the vaguely incredible extent the last tour did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrebleRose689 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I have mixed feelings about the 2nd night thing, but I'll throw my two cents in. Yes, I think they should definitely spread the rarities out between both nights. I see the need for variety of course, but there's no reason to save all the special songs for the second gig. It's really unfair for those who lack the time or money to see them twice, but are still devoted fans who appreciate the rarities. For the time being, the trend has obviously been continuing, but I'm hoping that will change in the future! That being said, I also am a fan of the green roulette wheel/crowd choice thing on night two. I think it's good of them to acknowledge the diehard fans who now only paid to see them twice, but waited outside all day two days in a row. I know that many people do not have the time or money to do that, but I think for those who do, it's a nice way for the guys to acknowledge the diehards in a fun way So I'm hoping the green roulette slot will continue for 2nd night gigs! Just my opinion. (Apologies if I'm back-tracking in the convo a bit. I'm at work, so I can't exactly follow closely XD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Yeah I'm kind of with Ari on this... back in the day it was harder to know but if you're a big fan it's usually common knowledge that second nights generally get the better setlist... This is recent though for the tour. Other multiple night shows were generally on equal levels like the O2. Hell, LA night 3 actually ended up being the worst. It was only in Toronto that they seemed to have brought back the night 2 superiority. As James said selling your tickets is a bit more difficult with the new system. That being said, I also am a fan of the green roulette wheel/crowd choice thing on night two. I think it's good of them to acknowledge the diehard fans who now only paid to see them twice, but waited outside all day two days in a row. I know that many people do not have the time or money to do that, but I think for those who do, it's a nice way for the guys to acknowledge the diehards in a fun way So I'm hoping the green roulette slot will continue for 2nd night gigs! Just my opinion. There's a few people who pay for 2 nights but mostly the 2nd night being added later just means there's more casual fans. In almost all of these shows the night 1 presale night seems to always have the better crowds as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 This is recent though for the tour. Other multiple night shows were generally on equal levels like the O2. Hell, LA night 3 actually ended up being the worst. It was only in Toronto that they seemed to have brought back the night 2 superiority. As James said selling your tickets is a bit more difficult with the new system. There's a few people who pay for 2 nights but mostly the 2nd night being added later just means there's more casual fans. In almost all of these shows the night 1 presale night seems to always have the better crowds as a result. All good points, definitely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I refuse to go to the thread made by Fabri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I refuse to go to the thread made by Fabri. He took my thread title. I had the thread ready and all for when this one gets locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 He took my thread title. I had the thread ready and all for when this one gets locked. /Fabri Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Don't be a pedant. I clearly meant night 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliss Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Did you miss the part where it was a joke? Can never be sure here, seen a few people here and there who seem pretty serious business on the board. It really is that simple I can only go to one night for Emirates so I'm going to the second night, savvy? I don't disagree with you, it's more that complaining isn't gonna get us anywhere. Exactly. Sure, all I'm saying is that there was no second date announced in the beginning and since the last two gigs in Montreal and Québec were one nighters... Plus with the paperless tickets that can only be picked up before the show with a credit card and government ID, I was pretty much stuck with them from the beginning no matter what. Anyway, not really angry anymore just highly disappointed about this. Someone who was at the second night said that a lot of people had a huge question mark on their faces during Sunburn and MC. What is this, I don't even... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Someone who was at the second night said that a lot of people had a huge question mark on their faces during Sunburn and MC. What is this, I don't even... /America /Canada Feels like a bit of a waste to play Dead Star and Micro Cuts over there. But at the same time it's great that they actually listened to the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will_ Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Sure, all I'm saying is that there was no second date announced in the beginning and since the last two gigs in Montreal and Québec were one nighters... Plus with the paperless tickets that can only be picked up before the show with a credit card and government ID, I was pretty much stuck with them from the beginning no matter what. Anyway, not really angry anymore just highly disappointed about this. Someone who was at the second night said that a lot of people had a huge question mark on their faces during Sunburn and MC. What is this, I don't even... Yeah, that's fair enough and definitely sucks. That'd be because the majority that go are casuals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 As I mentioned before there's probably be at least somewhat of a better reaction had they been played the first night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanp16 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 The only way they could possibly please everybody is play two gigs in every city; the first gig you can buy tickets like normal. Night two in a smaller venue and you can only get tickets through here or whatever. But even then you'd still have people getting fucked over if they couldn't make the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 The only way they could possibly please everybody is play two gigs in every city; the first gig you can buy tickets like normal. Night two in a smaller venue and you can only get tickets through here or whatever. But even then you'd still have people getting fucked over if they couldn't make the second. Or they could just play a decent set on both nights and not make the differences so drastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 The best possible way to please everybody is to not play horrifyingly shit setlists at ANY gigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Pretty sure Chris tweeted after Wembley (or maybe some other gig) saying that the second night is always less nervous for them. Which means they grow balls overnight and play more obscure stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopix Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 The best possible way to please everybody is to not play horrifyingly shit setlists at ANY gigs. Except then the mainstream fans would get annoyed, duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DifferentPerson Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Or they could just play a decent set on both nights and not make the differences so drastic. Seriously, this is all they need to do. Is it so hard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Except then the mainstream fans would get annoyed, duh. They'd still get more than their fair share of singles/hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aliss Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 The only way they could possibly please everybody is play two gigs in every city; the first gig you can buy tickets like normal. Night two in a smaller venue and you can only get tickets through here or whatever. But even then you'd still have people getting fucked over if they couldn't make the second. Or why not make polls where fans vote on which oldies they want to hear! Oh wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Pretty sure Chris tweeted after Wembley (or maybe some other gig) saying that the second night is always less nervous for them. Which means they grow balls overnight and play more obscure stuff. More like they grew their balls halfway through the gig when they told the barrier they were playing Micro Cuts the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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