rockmuse1 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Quick history.... In 1997 R.E.M. was at the peak of their career after 8 studio albums and was still riding high when their new album "New adventures in Hi-Fi" was set to release. Despite the album being full of commercially viable songs, the band decided to release the artistic and languid "Ebow the Letter" as their first radio single. Although a nice beautiful song, the song tanked commercially which only made their second single less palatable for radio play. Once they lost the momentum they never got it back with that album or others in the future. I'm suggesting that the ridiclous idea to release Madness as their first single may prove analogous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexGB- Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Except Survival was the first single, and it seems to be played quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcade Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Quick history.... In 1997 R.E.M. was at the peak of their career after 8 studio albums and was still riding high when their new album "New adventures in Hi-Fi" was set to release. Despite the album being full of commercially viable songs, the band decided to release the artistic and languid "Ebow the Letter" as their first radio single. Although a nice beautiful song, the song tanked commercially which only made their second single less palatable for radio play. Once they lost the momentum they never got it back with that album or others in the future. I'm suggesting that the ridiclous idea to release Madness as their first single may prove analogous. Not sure.. if anything to me, it seems they still strive to reel in new fans.. With The Resistance they should have put MK Ultra out as one of their first songs as that was a pure belter. With The 2nd Law, Unsustainable (if slightly longer) would also have been the song to really launch the album, grab new fans by the throat, shake them about and take them on the journey with the single releases. Its good that Fans/boardies etc got to hear that first but 'the kids' should also have had that same experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I guess we're rolling with the pretending Survival didn't happen universe then. It's not surprising someone would wonder this given the poor chart performance so far in Europe (although 8 on the Billboard rock charts is respectable, eve if this song is barely rock). I guess we won't know until we hear the album how good an analogy this is. The rest of the album may be a lot less radio friendly. I don't think it works for the single though as Madness is quite an upbeat, catchy sounding song and E-Bow is not at all, so in those terms I'd say Madness had the signs of being commercially viable. Why it failed to chart well in the first week is odd though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjartrod Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 You're talking about the UK charts, right? Cos I was just reading a thread in the Media section and apparently it's doing very very well in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic Syndrome Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Survival was not the official first single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Survival was not the official first single. But it was first. It was official. And it was a single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrieB Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Much too early I think to make any judgement at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockertae Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Survival was not the official first single. I'm with Niall on this one. I might feel differently if the Madness release had a b-side, or a physical version or anything to distinguish it, but as it is the releases are pretty much identical - you can download the single track from itunes or muse.mu and that's it. Saying it's the first "official" single means about as much to me as if you said Uprising was the official 12th song on The Resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I'm with Niall on this one. I might feel differently if the Madness release had a b-side, or a physical version or anything to distinguish it, but as it is the releases are pretty much identical - you can download the single track from itunes or muse.mu and that's it. Saying it's the first "official" single means about as much to me as if you said Uprising was the official 12th song on The Resistance. I assume the physical release is coming soon, maybe at the same time the video gets released. Hopefully, it'll have some form of b-side too, whether that be a radio edit, remix or (ideally, but unrealistically) an original song. Something's better than nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I doubt it. We'd get a preorder or something if there was a physical release. I wish there was one but it's a bit late now. The album is out in less than a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic Syndrome Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I'm with Niall on this one. I might feel differently if the Madness release had a b-side, or a physical version or anything to distinguish it, but as it is the releases are pretty much identical - you can download the single track from itunes or muse.mu and that's it. Saying it's the first "official" single means about as much to me as if you said Uprising was the official 12th song on The Resistance. Yeah but if the Olympics didn't happen, Survival wouldn't be first to be released. And I believe that the band consider it a first single, so they would any way choose it to be the first single.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I doubt it. We'd get a preorder or something if there was a physical release. I wish there was one but it's a bit late now. The album is out in less than a month. Damn, well that's disappointing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahG123 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 What a depressing idea. I think the 2nd law could do very well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 What a depressing idea. I think the 2nd law could do very well I don't think it'll do as well commercially as The Resistance, but I think it'll do alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HannahG123 Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I don't think it'll do as well commercially as The Resistance, but I think it'll do alright. Yeh I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Little Animal Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 1997 is not 2012. The music industry and the impact of singles is completely different now, with the internets and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I don't think it'll do as well commercially as The Resistance, but I think it'll do alright. It will. Only because TR increased their worldwide (most importantly in North America) fanbase quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 1997 is not 2012. The music industry and the impact of singles is completely different now, with the internets and all that. Agreed. It has plenty of views on youtube and it is often played on the radio in my area. I think it'll receive more recognition once the video is out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoberBaby Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Agreed. It has plenty of views on youtube and it is often played on the radio in my area. I think it'll receive more recognition once the video is out. Plus, Muse didn't really become commercialy friendly until OOS and even then they weren't amazingly huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic Syndrome Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 Honestly I don't care how it will do , I care about the good music which I still have hopes for. Despite Madness and the other two which I am not crazy about either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serpentsatellite Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 I care a bit more about Muse's commercial success, as it's directly related to my chances of ever getting to see them live again... Hopefully the label finds some way to at least *attempt* to inform the US that there's a new album... The SNL is a step in the right direction, I guess... but does anyone watch that anymore?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomesickSubterranean Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 For those hoping for a Madness b-side...I read a french interview (I don't speak French but I translated it) and Chris said there won't be any b-sides. I'll look for it now. Here it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 For those hoping for a Madness b-side...I read a french interview (I don't speak French but I translated it) and Chris said there won't be any b-sides. I'll look for it now. Here it is. There won't be any b-sides for anything from the album or just for Madness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted August 30, 2012 Share Posted August 30, 2012 For those hoping for a Madness b-side...I read a french interview (I don't speak French but I translated it) and Chris said there won't be any b-sides. I'll look for it now. Here it is. Funny. The one interview I didn't bother to read. Ya Matt clearly he says they are done with B-sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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