dan. Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I just hope they tailor the sets (i.e. the old songs) to the new album's vibe. It's something Muse have always failed to do and it really jarrs live. Yep. It's a shame, the way Muse have made music means they should be able to have endless creativity with their setlists whilst still getting them to work. I'm always brimming with ideas about the way they could create and structure their shows differently. But at the end of the day you can tell it'll end up being the same old 7-8 new songs + Uprising Supermassive Black Hole Hysteria Time Is Running Out FEELING GOOD Resistance Starlight Undisclosed Desires Plug In Baby Knights of Cydonia Easy expectations to beat Muse. Please do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Yep. It's a shame, the way Muse have made music means they should be able to have endless creativity with their setlists whilst still getting them to work. I'm always brimming with ideas about the way they could create and structure their shows differently. But at the end of the day you can tell it'll end up being the same old 7-8 new songs + Uprising Supermassive Black Hole Hysteria Time Is Running Out FEELING GOOD Resistance Starlight Undisclosed Desires Plug In Baby Knights of Cydonia Easy expectations to beat Muse. Please do it. Speculation on future gigs/tours all over again But UD won't stay, imho. It was too bad live, even for Muse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MopManMuse Posted July 3, 2012 Author Share Posted July 3, 2012 what are the chances of them playing Citizen Erased or MoTP this tour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 what are the chances of them playing Citizen Erased or MoTP this tour? Higher for MoTP than for CE. In percentage, I think MoTP will be played 50-75% of the times, CE will surface 10-25% of the times edit: uhm, maybe 75% is high. Yeah, I'd say MOTP will be played half of the times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 MotP I could see coming up now and again. CE I'm not so sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwen_ Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 "Map of.............................. Your Head." I like it a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan. Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Speculation on future gigs/tours all over again But UD won't stay, imho. It was too bad live, even for Muse. Yet they chose to play it at Reading and Leeds, classing it with the rest of the 'Greatest Hits' after The Resistance Tour was over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Yet they chose to play it at Reading and Leeds, classing it with the rest of the 'Greatest Hits' after The Resistance Tour was over. They had played it every concert beforehand. What made people think they wouldn't bring it out for R/L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearAndPanic Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Yet they chose to play it at Reading and Leeds, classing it with the rest of the 'Greatest Hits' after The Resistance Tour was over. They chose to play it to RATM fans, it's fucked. Hoping against hope they see it to be much less relevant in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 I think it's likely that songs of OoS which worked well @ Leed/Reading (such as Space Dementia, Hyper Music etc) remain in the setlist, cuz they did such an amazing work to bring them back to life and it worked so well so it would be a shame not to keep them playin.. Muscle Museum and Showbiz worked incredibly well live as well but look what happened to them. Leeds/Reading was sort of a way of saying "There, happy now?" so they could finally lay those songs to rest. Although I would love Hyper Music and Dark Shines to stay, Muse simply don't play songs like those anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted July 3, 2012 Share Posted July 3, 2012 Leeds/Reading was sort of a way of saying "There, happy now?" so they could finally lay those songs to rest. Pretty much. That's what the whole "drawing a line at OoS" was about. They'd bring out the songs live to make it clear they were giving it a sendoff :'( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic Syndrome Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Sunburn, Muscle Museum, Showbiz, Uno, Dead Star, In Your World, The Groove, Space Dementia, Hyper Music, Apocalypse Please, The Small Print, Ruled By Secrecy, Take A Bow, MOTP, MK Ultra... 90% of this will never happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marinator Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Uno, Sunburn, Screenager, CE, Bliss, S4A, IYW, TSP, Yes Please, Eternally Missed, Dead Star.. This just turned into a list of songs that will never be played Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maneachicken Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 They need to stop doing greatest hits tours and actually do album tours. In this I mean a good mix of songs, not just the album's singles and 2 of the album tracks that the fans want to hear, plus the singles everyone knows. These small arena shows are perfect for rotating 2-3 rarities, I remember that we got Cave at the O2 last year, and I'd love to see an intergration of some older songs from before 2006 in the mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 They need to stop doing greatest hits tours Every setlist I've seen them play has pretty much been that. Although they could at least have the option for more variety if they played more songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maneachicken Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Yeah, I still believe they were at their best with a more stripped stage, say the Black Holes tour with the egg drum riser. Plus if they looked at how they structure putting on the support act they could have more time for more songs. I'd love to see even some older singles come back regularly, say Sing for Absolution, Invincible, B&H, Apocalypse Please and Sunburn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 4, 2012 Share Posted July 4, 2012 Sunburn, Muscle Museum, Showbiz, Uno, Dead Star, In Your World, The Groove, Space Dementia, Hyper Music, Apocalypse Please, The Small Print, Ruled By Secrecy, Take A Bow, MOTP, MK Ultra... 90% of this will never happen. These will probably happen. Take a Bow, MOTP, MK Ultra especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forevermusic Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I don't think they will play both UD and Resistance on this tour - one of them will be dropped or they will be alternated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I think they are too good a band and too early into their career to be doing greatest hit setlists. When U2 does it people understand why. A band late in their career where many people are familiar only with singles but Muse shouldn't be doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FabriPav Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I think they are too good a band and too early into their career to be doing greatest hit setlists. When U2 does it people understand why. A band late in their career where many people are familiar only with singles but Muse shouldn't be doing it. You're back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Muse playing old songs (the good ones anyway) is a laughable idea now. They should do it, but they have no reason to when thousands and thousands of people are happy with mediocre gigs as long as they get to hear Uprising, SMBH or whatever only song they've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockertae Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 Muse playing old songs (the good ones anyway) is a laughable idea now. They should do it, but they have no reason to when thousands and thousands of people are happy with mediocre gigs as long as they get to hear Uprising, SMBH or whatever only song they've heard. I agree with you about them not really having much motivation to play old songs for the reasons you've said, but I think you're being a bit unfair. They do play old songs really, but they play the same ones over and over for loads of gigs in a row, and completely neglect others. For example, in 2011 they played Citizen Erased loads, but it was pretty much that or Butterflies & Hurricanes with no other options for the majority of gigs. The main problem for me is the sets are too short. I'm really hoping for a mimimum of 18 songs per gig on the upcoming European tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I agree with you about them not really having much motivation to play old songs for the reasons you've said, but I think you're being a bit unfair. They do play old songs really, but they play the same ones over and over for loads of gigs in a row, and completely neglect others. For example, in 2011 they played Citizen Erased loads, but it was pretty much that or Butterflies & Hurricanes with no other options for the majority of gigs. The main problem for me is the sets are too short. I'm really hoping for a mimimum of 18 songs per gig on the upcoming European tour. It's the lack of balls as well as the short setlists that annoy me. CE and B&H are both fantastic live, but they were regulars on the two previous tours as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foldingstars Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 ^ same. Although Muse have always been playing safe setlists that have their most successful songs in them. I wish they'd play songs that work live instead of the songs that get played in the radio a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dockertae Posted July 5, 2012 Share Posted July 5, 2012 I'm still hoping the Resistance tour was an outlier because the Absolution and Black Holes European tours had longer sets (though not by much). I'm hoping they return to 18-20, I think more than 20 songs a gig for arenas just isn't going to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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