kev Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee3Dee Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Gravity. WUBWUBWUB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_thermodynamics questions is, how do they relate to the music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interzone Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Asimov. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_laws_of_robotics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackparker Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Speechless. I really do not know what to say. The Dubstep bit shocked me at first, I suppose it will need taking used to :/ Well we'll see what the rest brings! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kev Posted June 6, 2012 Author Share Posted June 6, 2012 oh thermodynamics duh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown (or Dan To You) Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 In the video they're referring to Entropy, which is part of the second law of Thermodynamics. Basically the entropy of an isolated system will increase over time. This explains why time doesn't run backwards, among other things. It's very hard to explain but one of the other things that stems from the second law is that everything in the universe tends towards maximum disorder or minimum energy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(order_and_disorder) Conversely among us Chemistry students, the second law of Thermodynamics is that no-one understands thermodynamics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interpolpirate Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_thermodynamics questions is, how do they relate to the music? Seems like a The Resistance style statement to me. "Isolated systems spontaneously evolve towards thermal equilibrium -- the state of maximum entropy of the system" Entropy means disorder or chaos, so it looks to me like a reference to the banking crisis and london riots etc. So yeah I expect more lyrics in line with the songs on TR. With more wub-wub this time though, apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buxomflirter Queef Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 oh kev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kavo Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Here was me thinking it was the phonetic spelling of "lá." Irish word for day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcade Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 The 2nd rule of Fight Club is you don't talk about Fight Club! Interesting as to why Matt chose this theme as the crux of the album.. Guess it means we're all heading into ultimate destruction.. Might as well have fun along the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrinking Universe Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 In the video they're referring to Entropy, which is part of the second law of Thermodynamics. Basically the entropy of an isolated system will increase over time. This explains why time doesn't run backwards, among other things. It's very hard to explain but one of the other things that stems from the second law is that everything in the universe tends towards maximum disorder or minimum energy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entropy_(order_and_disorder) Conversely among us Chemistry students, the second law of Thermodynamics is that no-one understands thermodynamics As I posted in the thread where nobody will read a post because it moves too quickly, I dislike explaining the 2nd law of thermodynamics as the degree of disorder increasing with time. Entropy is more accurately explained as the degree of randomisation - I know, some of you will find this semantics . The 2nd law is nothing more than statistics... the chance of a system not appearing randomised is usually extremely low, and if it does, it won't take long before it reattains the randomised state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamOutLoud Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Asimov. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_laws_of_robotics hmm this one I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 I wrote this elsewhere: I genuinely have no idea. Matt seems to have mistaken the economy for a closed system, which it is not. The inputs fluctuate daily and it is where our economy is derived from. There are constantly new sources of wealth flowing in form new mineral discoveries to emerging technologies and the resources that generate the economy occupy many more dimensions tham simple statistical descriptions of exchanges of temperature and pressure, from the direct mineral and resource inputs like oil, gold and food to the more abstract ones like services, taxation, gambling, dissipation of wealth among growing populations and investments. In a way if you were to cut off all economic inputs and left the economy to simply be an exchange of existing resource, which makes no tangible sense, in a very laisssez faire libertarian regime, I would imagine that wealth would eventually become accumulated by a few and not at all entropic, so even on that level the analogy doesn't work. Matt, consult a physicist like myself or Shrinking Universe next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordimuse Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 The second law states that the changes in entropy is always equal or bigger than zero. Entropy is an measure for disorder. The nature is aiming for more disorder, and in the end there will be chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anxyous Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Lead single: They be takin' all our moneeeeyyy! Them fat cats got to die! It's a process with positive entropyyyyy! We have to say goodbye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingardium LevioSIA Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Yeah I recognised it straight away. The stuff about entropy and mentions of energy in the video go with that. And people are saying one of the tracks is called Unsustainable or something? So that fits with ideas about an energy crisis. It sounds like an interesting concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niall Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 The second law states that the changes in entropy is always equal or bigger than zero. Entropy is an measure for disorder. The nature is aiming for more disorder, and in the end there will be chaos. Sort of true. In a closed system. This only works in closed systems. The solar system is nearly closed, for example. The sun tends towards higher entropy while there are islands of decreasing entropy as a result of the energy exchange, for example, Earth, where life decreases the overall entropy of Earth by using the energy to do work and become more ordered. And the universe overall tends towards entropy assuming the universe is energetically isolated - the result will be heat death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Muse Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Entropy!? OMG they stole my idea: Cover I made from years ago.... I'm speechless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hyper Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Asimov. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_laws_of_robotics yes, i had the same idea when I saw the robot in the trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted June 6, 2012 Share Posted June 6, 2012 Yeah I recognised it straight away. The stuff about entropy and mentions of energy in the video go with that. And people are saying one of the tracks is called Unsustainable or something? So that fits with ideas about an energy crisis. It sounds like an interesting concept. A bit irrelevant but talking about entropy with your avatar is strangely fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spark_ Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 1. you can't win 2. you must lose 3. you can't quit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic Syndrome Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Entropy!? OMG they stole my idea: Cover I made from years ago.... I'm speechless. OK wow. And that's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madzip Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Kirky is a troll! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpetBomber Posted June 7, 2012 Share Posted June 7, 2012 Yeah I recognised it straight away. The stuff about entropy and mentions of energy in the video go with that. And people are saying one of the tracks is called Unsustainable or something? So that fits with ideas about an energy crisis. It sounds like an interesting concept. I reckon the song is going to be called Pure Unsustainable. Cool name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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