eivdjo Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Hi. I've read a few threads, but nothing on this particular subject. When Matt plays most of his solos live, he uses sort of a power chord to mute the strings he doesn't need. In stead of just picking one string, when the solo is only on one string, he picks all the strings. I really can't explain it any simpler than that. Does any one want to tell me something about this technique? I have watched a whole lot of videos of both him, and people doing guitar covers in order to figure it out. Check out these examples. Sunburn 2006. During the solo here he uses that "power chord". I could not embed this. http://youtu.be/n5ujX9OtfWk?t=2m35s This great cover of CE. Check out 4:18 + http://www.youtube.com/embed/d2_9JN93f3w And also this guy, from about 2:10. http://www.youtube.com/embed/7lU6FTDb3Bg Could someone help me with this? Maybe "tab" it out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Well, he mutes the other strings as he strums? If you practice enough you'll get the hang of it It's more difficult when he does that technique on just the one string Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 you just rest your unused fingers over the other strings to mute them and then strum wildly. it's poor technique to be fair, but it sort of works well in bellamy's case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheddatom Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 it's not poor technique if it sounds good!! I do it all the time. You have to be careful not to set off harmonics. I usually use two fingers if I can to make sure it's properly muting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Aren't Sunburn and CE solopart just octaves anyway? Isn't this how Cave on the album is played? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Meh, easy technique really. Makes it so playing requires less precision and sounds pretty good at the same time. I use it instinctively now-a-days so I can't really describe how to do it as I don't really notice when I'm doing it. It's nothing special though really, quite a few artists do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opie Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 Common technique used by many. John Frusciante uses it a lot. Most of the time the left hand shapes the sound much more than the picking hand. This is one example of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 I think the weirdest part of this thread is the fact that he labelled an Esparoba cover as great ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impulse 101 Posted January 20, 2012 Share Posted January 20, 2012 It comes naturally after playing for a while. Raking muted strings prior to hitting the note that you want to sustain adds a percussive element to the sound. When I finger pick a part I will use the nails of some of my fingers to do the same thing when playing both lead and rhythm parts. JT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I think the weirdest part of this thread is the fact that he labelled an Esparoba cover as great ... What exactly is it that K&T has against Esparoba. He's not the greatest but it's pretty much the norm to just hate him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Batman. Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 What exactly is it that K&T has against Esparoba. He's not the greatest but it's pretty much the norm to just hate him. It's basically a mixture of distaste, jealously, and annoyance at him. He makes himself out to be the most amazing guitar player that's ever lived, whilst playing on all these expensive guitars and 'signature' amps. Thing is, he's been playing for years and he's still average, and everything he buys gets paid for by his daddy. Just how he comes across to me anyway, he could be a great guy for all I know. Still jealous of his gear anyway. By the way OP, dis is pretty easy. |-x-x-x-x-x-x-------x-x-x-x-x-x-x- |-x-x-x-x-x-x-------x-x-x-x-x-x-x- |-x-x-x-x-x-7-------x-x-x-x-x-x-x- |-6-6-6-6-6-x-------x-x-6-6-6-6-6- |-x-x-x-x-x-x-------x-x-x-x-x-x-x- |-x-x-x-x-x-x-------x-x-x-x-x-x-x- Just play everything like that, with your index finger muting all the strings. Play notes with your other fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 He's from Belgium. That's it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Just play everything like that, with your index finger muting all the strings. Play notes with your other fingers. I tend to use my thumb to mute any strings above my index which, I think, is much easier. Each to their own though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy. Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I tend to use my thumb to mute any strings above my index which, I think, is much easier. Each to their own though. Apparently that's bad technique, limits the amount of frets you can stretch, but I do it too. I just find it easier. Probably because, as a whole, my technique is sloppy as fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 He's from Belgium. That's it Oi! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobby Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 Apparently that's bad technique, limits the amount of frets you can stretch, but I do it too. I just find it easier. Probably because, as a whole, my technique is sloppy as fuck. I've got a fairly sloppy technique too. I don't really lose a lot of stretch from it though, I've got long, gangely fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banksy. Posted January 21, 2012 Share Posted January 21, 2012 I've got a fairly sloppy technique too. I don't really lose a lot of stretch from it though, I've got long, gangely fingers Ahh, probably won't have much of a negative effect anyway then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 It comes naturally after playing for a while. Raking muted strings prior to hitting the note that you want to sustain adds a percussive element to the sound. When I finger pick a part I will use the nails of some of my fingers to do the same thing when playing both lead and rhythm parts. JT Dave Gilmour does this quite a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdeboer01 Posted January 22, 2012 Share Posted January 22, 2012 I've got a fairly sloppy technique too. I don't really lose a lot of stretch from it though, I've got long, gangely fingers Jimmy Page is/was sloppy as hell too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impulse 101 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Dave Gilmour does this quite a bit. I stole most of my playing style from David Gilmour, Mark Knopfler and Alex Lifeson. (The rest was ruthlessly savages from Andy Summers and Eric Johnson.) As for the whole "Sloppy is good." thing, I will add this. If you ever get into a studio with a real producer that whole theory will go flying out the window, along with your pride and self respect. JT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 That just sounds like those producers are in the wrong job. By the way OP, dis is pretty easy. |-x-x-x-x-x-x-------x-x-x-x-x-x-x- |-x-x-x-x-x-x-------x-x-x-x-x-x-x- |-x-x-x-x-x-7-------x-x-x-x-x-x-x- |-6-6-6-6-6-x-------x-x-6-6-6-6-6- |-x-x-x-x-x-x-------x-x-x-x-x-x-x- |-x-x-x-x-x-x-------x-x-x-x-x-x-x- Just play everything like that, with your index finger muting all the strings. Play notes with your other fingers. Nothing wrong with using your index finger to mute all the strings, but you shouldn't be strumming all the strings at all times. It's just a way to keep the odd slip up in check. Useful if you do a lot of tremolo picking as you should be using your elbow rather than your wrist, which is why it's useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impulse 101 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I thought that too, at first. Then I listened to the tracks that I did their way vs. my own demos. After that I worked a lot harder at playing cleanly and making the space between the notes count as much as the notes themselves. JT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I just mean there are ways to get parts played more cleanly, like removing unnecessary strings from the guitar (I know this'll cause issues with the neck). If they aren't there, they can't hit them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IntelligentAl Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I just mean there are ways to get parts played more cleanly, like removing unnecessary strings from the guitar (I know this'll cause issues with the neck). If they aren't there, they can't hit them. Sounds like that would be massively overcomplicating the situation. If you cant play a guitar part cleanly without removing strings, you need to practice more. Why am I still awake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Sounds like that would be massively overcomplicating the situation. If you cant play a guitar part cleanly without removing strings, you need to practice more. Why am I still awake? Of course they would need to practise more. But in a studio you wouldn't necessarily have time for that guitarist to go away and learn how to play the thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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