lpdrummer Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I've got the effect programmed out for the Whammy Pedal in Ableton if anyone wants the file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse59200 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 for whammy IV ? Yes I want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpdrummer Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Here it is! Map of the Problematique for Ableton Live You'll need to locate the recorded version of the song in order to play along with it, but other than that, just go to arrangement view and the whole track is laid out from left to right. Also, make sure your MIDI cable's output is plugged into the Whammy. Note: This was made in Ableton Live 8 to be used with a Whammy IV. It should work with newer versions, but I'm curious to see it's compatibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 This synthesizer is a modular structure. It is possible to recreate everything. I've posted multiple times about how to recreate the sound accurately. Basically just set up the Nord as a vocoder, pretty much mixing together a saw wave and a guitar. You don't need the Nord G2 specifically, any old vocoder will do. Also the Nord Modular is not a "true" modular, just operates like one, but with limitations whereas with a real one, the only limitations is what modules are on the market, your wallet and how conscious you are about saving the enviroment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHYXATION Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I've posted multiple times about how to recreate the sound accurately. Basically just set up the Nord as a vocoder, pretty much mixing together a saw wave and a guitar. You don't need the Nord G2 specifically, any old vocoder will do. Also the Nord Modular is not a "true" modular, just operates like one, but with limitations whereas with a real one, the only limitations is what modules are on the market, your wallet and how conscious you are about saving the enviroment. The most accurate sound you will get is with the NORD G2, good guitar with top pups and a good amp sound. The patch for this dont use a vocoder however the synth modules you use in it are called filter voice where you select 3 vowels(AEIOU) which gives the input sound (guitar) a pertic filter sound. the other things you need to use is the internal compressor of the nord, a EQ to change the tone of either the input or output and a good amp sound. there is more you can use to get a better sound with the G2 but as they go for 500+ just try that method. other hardware does really well for the song and some covers have been amazing sounding but not as close as the clavia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Someone post up a clip of this fancy Nord version. I'd be very surprised if it sounds any better than the sequenced whammy method. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomrulez Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Someone post up a clip of this fancy Nord version. I'd be very surprised if it sounds any better than the sequenced whammy method. Or different enough to justify the price of the unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sergeykarakich Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Jst found a way to do it. I will try to record it soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Someone post up a clip of this fancy Nord version. I'd be very surprised if it sounds any better than the sequenced whammy method. The only real significant difference is that it is cleaner sounding than a Whammy and if I remember correctly, the WH4 would pop a bit, as well as the trademark glitches. Not tried a Whammy 5 though, so no idea how the polyphonic mode handles it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 The whammy 5 handles it pretty well. Very clean sounding compared to the IV and not noisy at all. Only thing is that I can't figure out the different patterns and their order (pretty sure that cubase project isn't 100% correct, and it doesn't even work with the whammy 5) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Surely it must sound pretty accurate if you do the whammy pitch shift blended a little with the normal signal? Or at least in my head that works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse59200 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 none of the files work on my mac .....anyone here have a good knowledge of midi stuff on logic X ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 none of the files work on my mac .....anyone here have a good knowledge of midi stuff on logic X ? Ish, can send you my unsustainable file and you can have a gander at that. You have to go on piano roll then hyper editor or sutin and selected expression/program change from a drop down menu and make lines Or sutin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muse59200 Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I had your unsustainable midi file ( for whammy V ) it worked great on Reaper. if you have a logic project, I can try something with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I had your unsustainable midi file ( for whammy V ) it worked great on Reaper. if you have a logic project, I can try something with that. Ok, my internet's a bit sketchy at the moment but I'll try upload the logic file Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 Made a new whammy file using harmony modes instead of just plain up down if anyone wants it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 26, 2014 Share Posted February 26, 2014 As in for whammy 5, nowt much work to make it work for the other whammys though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpdrummer Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I'd be curious to see how it sounds compared to the 100% pitch shifting mode. I've played around with it while controlling the pedal with my foot, but it probably sounds better having it switch between the octaves without the in-between bending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic. Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The quieter bit towards the end of the song sounds better to me. The part played on the C string doesn't sound fantastic, and the verse isn't great, but tbh I don't think the verse sounded fantastic with the other version anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQz093e1K3Q Finally got around to doing this! From what I remember of the article where they explained it, this would need to be more complex, a different synthesiser with effects for each octave in the sequence basically. Possible within Ableton (Well any DAW really), but without knowing more about the equipment involved, mostly guesswork at that work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthijs Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 I have an in-ear recording of MOTP of Morgan's synths. It sounds really cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Can someone tell is MOTP in actual Drop C or just E standard Low C? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Can someone tell is MOTP in actual Drop C or just E standard Low C? Standard with the low E tuned to C or CADGBE in other words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave. Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 Standard with the low E tuned to C or CADGBE in other words It really annoys me for some reason when people called stuff 'Drop C' when it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 It really annoys me for some reason when people called stuff 'Drop C' when it isn't. Especially when drop C is the third best tuning... right after FAGDAD and CABBAGE on a 7 string Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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