Morgan. Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 They're probably releasing a DVD. /hopeful I'll be so gutted if they don't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katharsis Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 It's quite possibly 2 of the best performances they've ever done. Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meep Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Sad as it is... I'm starting to think this whole thing may have been Matt's call. Those of you who saw them, aside from CE, the setlist for the last tour was pretty much exactly that, any other songs they played was by force of that voting system, look at the setlist for previous festivals, when was the last time you saw a song like Fury or the Groove? Or, hell, even TSP or Showbiz!? Their live performances have been below par of late.... this one had potential but then all the best songs were cut. The Resistance was not a great album. Muse on the whole had been going downhill lately and it seems that this may be the pinnacle of that. I fucking hate this. I knew you would all crack eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo57 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 They're probably releasing a DVD. /hopeful There's gonna be something, I'm sure. They had those 360 cameras out again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrummingGuitar Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 While I agree with most of what you said, including the fact that IN GENERAL, MUSEhave been going downhill lately (ie: The Resistance sucks compared to OoS/Absolution), at the same time these gigs could not have been the pinnacle of that - more like a recovery if anything, we just didn't get to see it unfortunately. FFFFUUUUUUU =( I agree...the gig I'm sure was great esp the first half....the fact that none of us can see it is.what's wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OriginOfGeorgia Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 There wasnt actually a special guest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkshines 42 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 But their live performance tonight and at Leeds was nowhere near below par. It's quite possibly 2 of the best performances they've ever done. Yeah it was much better than the most recent ones, agreed, but best EVER!? seriously? Have you watched the Absolution and Hullabaloo DVDs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic07 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Did anyone notice Resistance artwork in the background during Starlight? Silly billies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Did anyone notice Resistance artwork in the background during Starlight? Silly billies. Haven't they been doing that all tour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skyzlmt Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I'm sure it was Matt's call. He pretty much makes all the calls in the group. He decides what songs are going to be played at every gig, he decides the stage design, he decides what songs make the broadcast. This is why Matt should just stfu and play his music to allowing everyone who is sensible to get a word in. My theory is that Matt signed on behalf of Muse a new contract with Warner in '09 or '10. Warner has been creatively fucking Linkin Park for years now. Maybe something was outlined on the contract which gave WMG slightly more creative control over the live side of their business. Any artist will tell you that there is no money in album sales anymore and touring is where the money is at. With WMGs notorious history of sucking any cash that they can from musicians, the pieces seem to fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-museing Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 There's gonna be something, I'm sure. They had those 360 cameras out again Well, in that case, we're definately getting a DVD of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melon Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Haven't they been doing that all tour? Yeah, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty987 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Yeah it was much better than the most recent ones, agreed, but best EVER!? seriously? Have you watched the Absolution and Hullabaloo DVDs? Yes, thousands of times, obviously it is never going to reach the heights of when these songs were being played night in night out. But when compared to any muse show we've had since around Wembley 07, maybe even before that, i would class this is Muse's best gig since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Museic07 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Haven't they been doing that all tour? No idea I didn't think so, certainly weren't when I saw them at Wembley and Birmingham.... I think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenshin11212 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Yeah it was much better than the most recent ones, agreed, but best EVER!? seriously? Have you watched the Absolution and Hullabaloo DVDs? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9g2YbanEkE This one video > everything they've done in the last 5 years tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrebleRose689 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 While I agree with most of what you said, including the fact that IN GENERAL, MUSEhave been going downhill lately (ie: The Resistance sucks compared to OoS/Absolution), at the same time these gigs could not have been the pinnacle of that - more like a recovery if anything, we just didn't get to see it unfortunately. FFFFUUUUUUU =( Yeah, I would say that they've actually been getting better lately (comparing the summer tour to the recent TR tour, I mean). Great-sounding performances, high energy and more of the rarer songs (though still a lack of variety & poor setlist length). And actually following-through on the promise to perform OoS in full was a very pleasant surprise. I'd say R&L is the pinnacle of their improvement. The whole broadcast issue is simply a separate letdown, and we still aren't 100% sure who is responsible for it. I'm still happy that there seems to be a slight upward-trend lately in their live shows and I hope it bodes well for future tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkshines 42 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 My theory is that Matt signed on behalf of Muse a new contract with Warner in '09 or '10. Warner has been creatively fucking Linkin Park for years now. Maybe something was outlined on the contract which gave WMG slightly more creative control over the live side of their business. Any artist will tell you that there is no money in album sales anymore and touring is where the money is at. With WMGs notorious history of sucking any cash that they can from musicians, the pieces seem to fit. Wow... that's a scarily likely hypothesis. I've been noticing that about Linkin Park too, that they've gone a bit... odd of late. Makes a disturbing sort of sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkshines 42 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Yes' date=' thousands of times, obviously it is never going to reach the heights of when these songs were being played night in night out. But when compared to any muse show we've had since around Wembley 07, maybe even before that, i would class this is Muse's best gig since then.[/quote'] Aaah, *tips hat* in which case you would have a fair point.... Though that is what I said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Essrog Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 If I had known they weren't going to broadcast the show I would have made more of an effort to try to make it out there ... even though it would have meant I'd be eating out of tin cans for the next year. A live feed would have made it all right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a-museing Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 If I had known they weren't going to broadcast the show I would have made more of an effort to try to make it out there ... even though it would have meant I'd be eating out of tin cans for the next year. A live feed would have made it all right. Same. I was trying to reassure myself by thinking that OOS would be broadcast. Bit naive in hindsight, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9g2YbanEkE This one video > everything they've done in the last 5 years tbh Sad thing is that bands like deftones' performances are still like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Essrog Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Same. I was trying to reassure myself by thinking that OOS would be broadcast. Bit naive in hindsight, I suppose. Muse better package the entire Origin set into this year's Christmas gift, and not in that shitty 360 format either. This is the only redemption I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkshines 42 Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 Sad thing is that bands like deftones' performances are still like that. Yeah! There are loads of bands who have stayed just as good live if not bettered themselves, whether you like them or not, Tool, Radiohead and InMe are perfect examples that you can have a good, fulfilling career in music without...well... loosing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kueller Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 I'm getting terrible Wembley Day 1 memories in this thread. Seeing one giant disappointment cause so much beef. Everyone starts raging and suddenly every fault Muse has is picked out and obsessed over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fragtion Posted August 28, 2011 Share Posted August 28, 2011 There was nothing lacking about the performance peeps. It just wasn't broadcast. Let's not go off on irrelevant tangents. One thing I do agree is really obscure is that the band would have asked BBC not to play the set in full. That seems somehow insecure, yet the band's performances have been anything but insecure, if they could pull of what they did at Leeds that is... It seems they're breaking new ground if anything. There's still something else at play here though surely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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