resistance2012 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 The difference between the points of the people you are quoting and your own are that you seem to think that Muse can't do rock because they are mature. i was talking in the other post about the songwriting, not about the music. and about the music, they have never been a rock band, for me they are more pop - rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 i was talking in the other post about the songwriting, not about the music. and about the music, they have never been a rock band, for me they are more pop - rock I'm assuming that you are talking about the lyrics. But if that's the case then you have really missed the point. The subject is the song writing(the music). The whole article is based on what Dom heard Matt play on the piano, so lyrics has nothing to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futurellama Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I don't know what you're trying to imply but the definition of a symphony is a musical composition in three movements or more written for an orchestra. Try google 'definition symphony'. Whether you or me want to see it as an 'actual' symphony or not is quite irrelevant. It's not written for an orchestra though, is it? It's written for four men and 100 backing tracks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 It's not written for an orchestra though, is it? It's written for four men and 100 backing tracks Just when you think no one could come out with anything more stupid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper_chondriac_muser Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Then what is an 'actual' symphony to you? Seriously? This has been argued to death, so I can't really be bothered to argue it further. Exogenesis is three songs that merge (kind of!) to form a long piece of music. It's got symphonic elements but, imo, it's not a symphony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resistance2012 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I'm assuming that you are talking about the lyrics. But if that's the case then you have really missed the point. The subject is the song writing(the music). The whole article is based on what Dom heard Matt play on the piano, so lyrics has nothing to do with it. music and lyrics go hand in hand, depending on how the lyric is, is how going to sound the melody, if the lyrics are sweeter the melody obviously be equal, if the lyrics are more darker it will be the same with the sound.. end off............................! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 music and lyrics go hand in hand, depending on how the lyric is, is how going to sound the melody, if the lyrics are sweeter the melody obviously be equal, if the lyrics are more darker it will be the same with the sound.. end off............................! Fucking hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper_chondriac_muser Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Fucking hell. I assume this person hasn't heard the lyrics to Plug In Baby, Jimmy Kane, Map Of Your Head, Sober, Yes Please (I could go on for a while)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L. Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 music and lyrics go hand in hand, depending on how the lyric is, is how going to sound the melody, if the lyrics are sweeter the melody obviously be equal, if the lyrics are more darker it will be the same with the sound.. end off............................! Hyper Music / Hyper Chondriac Music... Same lyrics, completely different music, melody and mood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LyraSilvertongue Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 music and lyrics go hand in hand, depending on how the lyric is, is how going to sound the melody, if the lyrics are sweeter the melody obviously be equal, if the lyrics are more darker it will be the same with the sound.. end off............................! Another for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 music and lyrics go hand in hand, depending on how the lyric is, is how going to sound the melody, if the lyrics are sweeter the melody obviously be equal, if the lyrics are more darker it will be the same with the sound.. end off............................! Oh really? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkeBqGWw4Ew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meep Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I wish I was still a teenager so that I knew that only heavy music is good music. Ha Ha. I don't trust Matt to do soft. He's not exactly Nick Drake subtle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leetroot Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 inspired by future events? hmm, let's look into the future... pain blood,screaming, sleep deprivation and madness. sounds like it could be quite good after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerman Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 If it's going to be like Falling Down or RBS then i'd be fine but NSC or Guiding Shite then i'd rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 If it's going to be like Falling Down or RBS then i'd be fine but NSC or Guiding Shite then i'd rage. NSC+Guiding Light>Falling Down+RBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryoma-kun Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Seriously? This has been argued to death, so I can't really be bothered to argue it further. Exogenesis is three songs that merge (kind of!) to form a long piece of music. It's got symphonic elements but, imo, it's not a symphony. Yes, the keyword is 'imo'. I doubt anyone sees it as a symphony together with works of Mozart, Beethoven etc. but it doesn't change the fact that it can be defined as an symphony. And honestly, did anyone think he would create a purely classical, nine movement symphony on level with the greatest through history recorded by the London Philharmonic Orchestra? No, didn't think so. In the pop-rock world, there's nothing wrong with naming it as a kind of symphony ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy24 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 NSC+Guiding Light>Falling Down+RBS I really hope you don't mean that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I really hope you don't mean that. I'm guessing he just means that he really hates Falling Down. So it's not THAT bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frakkles Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I'm guessing he just means that he really hates Falling Down. So it's not THAT bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy24 Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I'm guessing he just means that he really hates Falling Down. So it's not THAT bad. As long as he doesn't hate RBS, then I'll be alright with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furygirl Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 inspired by future events? hmm, let's look into the future... pain blood,screaming, sleep deprivation and madness. sounds like it could be quite good after all Good point. No doubt kids create angst. I'd think that putting up with the paps (and Kate for that matter) would create a lot of rage as well. /looking at bright side Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyper_chondriac_muser Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 Yes, the keyword is 'imo'. I doubt anyone sees it as a symphony together with works of Mozart, Beethoven etc. but it doesn't change the fact that it can be defined as an symphony. And honestly, did anyone think he would create a purely classical, nine movement symphony on level with the greatest through history recorded by the London Philharmonic Orchestra? No, didn't think so. In the pop-rock world, there's nothing wrong with naming it as a kind of symphony ^^ You're proving my point with your own ones . There's a difference between a song with strings in it and a symphony - Exogenesis is symphonic rock, not a classical composition. Exactly, it can't be compared to your average nine-part, but it's not me that's trying to pull off a three-part song as a symphony, it's Matt . And your last comment sums this up nicely: pop-rock. That's exactly what Muse are, so I find it funny that they've named one of their songs a 'symphony' when it doesn't fit that bracket in conventional terms. I got sucked back into this bloody argument after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hipbones Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 NSC+Guiding Light>Falling Down+RBS Don't be a dickhead. Better add a 'lol' before I'm infracted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerman Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 NSC+Guiding Light>Falling Down+RBS Ban. As long as he doesn't hate RBS, then I'll be alright with that. Totally the opposite of hate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbo Posted May 20, 2011 Share Posted May 20, 2011 I honestly don't give a shit as long as it's good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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