Sahir8 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 I know this may have been done before but i'm new here but do you believe songs such as knights of cydonia,uprising,butterflies and hurricanes,exo-politics,united states of eurasia and so on have a hidden meaning,telling us sheeple to wake up and fight a New world order.I certainly believe so,there is more their performance at the grammy's had several hints about this and I believe they named their live album HAARP for a specific reason. So,basically I believe there are messages for us to wake up,Please post your views Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeGarr Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 No. No. No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Born Lee Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 いいえ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahir8 Posted March 27, 2011 Author Share Posted March 27, 2011 How about you guys look into the NWO?Yes,it's a conspiracy theory but it makes sense.Please don't answer without knowing the details.It's NOT a subliminal message but they are trying to convey a message to us. Have a look at this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackparker Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macgivera Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 How about you guys look into the NWO?Yes,it's a conspiracy theory but it makes sense.Please don't answer without knowing the details.It's NOT a subliminal message but they are trying to convey a message to us. Have a look at this The aim of this essay is to examine whether language is iconic or arbitrary in the issue of onomatopoeia, i.e. whether animal sounds are represented in the same way in different languages. In addition, I will also look at onomatopoeical words which have been conventionalised, when the meaning broadened and they finally became part of ordinary language. It can be stated that arbitrary signs have slowly taken over as different languages have developed, but the reason why is a topic for discussion – is there a scientific cause, based on the theory of evolution, or an explanation found in religious myths? Whatever the reason is, it is not likely that iconicity will vanish totally. It is connected to human neurophysiology and an ancient part of language, a natural resemblance between an object and a sign which can exist in different forms. Onomatopoeia is one example of iconic signs, an object named after the sound it produces, and according to one theory conventionalised imitations is actually the origin of language. Nevertheless, there are two main categories – language being either iconic or arbitrary. Regarding onomatopoeia, my results suggest that language is only iconic to a limited extent. English and Swedish have some common representations of animal sounds, but the languages also differ in many ways. Conventionalising seems common in both languages and many of the words in my survey have been incorporated in dictionaries, representing more than only the sound of a certain animal. Have a look at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 How about you guys look into the NWO?Yes,it's a conspiracy theory but it makes sense.Please don't answer without knowing the details.It's NOT a subliminal message but they are trying to convey a message to us. Have a look at this Please don't assume we're all ignorant fools . We've listened, read and researched as much as you but come to a different conclusion. Matt makes references to many 'theories' or 'concepts' in his lyrics, some ridiculous, some plausible. Despite this, he has publicly admitted much of what he researches is pure curiousity and believes very little, if any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grabacr 31770 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 No MISSED THE FULL STOP DUH No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dillyracer Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 How about you guys look into the NWO?Yes,it's a conspiracy theory but it makes sense.Please don't answer without knowing the details.It's NOT a subliminal message but they are trying to convey a message to us. Have a look at this Nein, non, nee, no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spectrum IV Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Guiding Light makes me want to kill something, does that count? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce57 Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Guiding Light makes me want to kill something, does that count? I'd say that counts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mizutsu Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Some of them might. i have an open mind to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupus Posted March 27, 2011 Share Posted March 27, 2011 Please don't assume we're all ignorant fools . We've listened, read and researched as much as you but come to a different conclusion. Matt makes references to many 'theories' or 'concepts' in his lyrics, some ridiculous, some plausible. Despite this, he has publicly admitted much of what he researches is pure curiousity and believes very little, if any of it. I'm in the same boat as Matt really, and I'm pretty sure he's similar to me in that he gives everything a chance in thinking about it, a reasoning to oneself, then determines what his/my opinion is. Just because something sounds silly, it doesn't deserve to be written off... however, some things need very little analyzing to determine that it should be rejected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olly. Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 They just wanna be cool and have all this symbolism and imagery of new orders and shit because it's what matt reads. It just gives the band a bit of an edge and that's it. Load of baloney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboMansonMB-1 Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 I think so. We all know Matt is in love with these theories, and whether or not he believes them wholeheartedly has nothing to do with him putting them in Muse songs--they're obviously there. Also, I think he does believe at least some of it--according to that article from The Times http://board.muse.mu/showthread.php?t=75410 Matt has 2 years' worth of "freeze-dried emergency rations" stored up in his Lake Como house. Also, if you'll remember, during the recording of I want to say Absolution Muse locked themselves in that French chateau and blocked themselves off from the world until the album was done. Matt famously stated that he thought while they were in there the apocalypse or something would happen so the band should stock up on food and guns in order to protect themselves from the imminent danger. He clearly has an obsession with this idea of living in an Orwellian world (the whole of Muse's last album), uprisings (Uprising, duh), the apocalypse (Apocalypse Please, Sing for Absolution, etc), the supernatural/metaphysical (Exo-Politics, Exogenesis, etc), conspiracy theories (MK Ultra), government corruption (Knights of Cydonia, etc)... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chapel Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 It's possible. I bet if it were true their overall goal would be to make you more aware of the world and realize what could be going on than to start an uprising though. It really wouldn't surprise me. Lots of bands do it and seeing as Matt loves these theories he might do it just for fun if nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sahir8 Posted March 28, 2011 Author Share Posted March 28, 2011 Really glad there are atleast some open minded people here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Posted March 28, 2011 Share Posted March 28, 2011 Really glad there are atleast some open minded people here Let me guess, Open minded=believing everything you read and want to believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupus Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Let me guess, Open minded=believing everything you read and want to believe? Thats right, there is a difference. I'm open minded, but that just means (as I've stated before) that I give everything a fair go in my head, and then decide if it's crazy or not. I don't shoot things down without considering it at all, but it doesn't mean I accept everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetro Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 I think a lot of the Muse songs can be interpreted in many ways, no, correction: they can. I believe for instance that United States of Eurasia is a criticism against the US invasion of Iraq, and subsequently Afghanistan (with other countries being involved there as well). They say they had fun making the song, but I still feel there's sincerity there. Sahir8: I would like to know, what other conspiracy theories do you believe in? And exactly what do you mean by "new world order"? That's just so washed out, man. I doubt anyone has a clear view on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Muse songs do not have subliminal messages because you are conscious of the song meanings they are attempting to convey. Subliminal messages suggests that you are not aware of the stimuli, but your mind still evokes a response. Regarding Muse songs, the meaning is right there on the surface. We can read it, analyze it, dissect it and discuss it. The meanings are not too deep and not much information is given to the audience, other than buzz words and key phrases to pique the audiences' interest (and their internet searching skills). I have no doubt that Matt is curious in these theories, but he does not go fully in depth into the subjects. He keeps it fuzzy and superficial to broaden the music's appeal to the masses. With that said, I think it is funny that they are so anti-Illuminati, and the fans that are anti-Illuminati use Muse as their choice of music in anti-Illuminati banter, yet Muse works for an Illuminati giant, Warner Music. I honestly don't care either way. I would prefer that they were on an independent label, and hopefully that does happen soon. But I'm just telling it like it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jetro Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Illuminati is a scam. That is to say, it has become blown out of porportion: it died in the early 18th century. Warner Music, actually nothing, has anything to do with Illuminati. Why not complain about the cynical capitalism instead, or the actual conspiracies that goes on in the world? >_> Like Warner Music being a big company that only cares about money, medical companies using poor people as labrats in Africa, people using labrats as... labrats, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JessicaSarahS Posted March 29, 2011 Share Posted March 29, 2011 Illuminati is a scam. That is to say, it has become blown out of porportion: it died in the early 18th century. Warner Music, actually nothing, has anything to do with Illuminati. Why not complain about the cynical capitalism instead, or the actual conspiracies that goes on in the world? >_> Like Warner Music being a big company that only cares about money, medical companies using poor people as labrats in Africa, people using labrats as... labrats, etc. I agree. ....and medical companies use poor people as labrats in the US as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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