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It just means you're going to get smacked in the head at some point by someone's portable battery charger.

 

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Also, Matt playing over IS coda with the sustainer on gives me quite the goosebumps.

 

 

Yeah, the sustianiac over IS did sound awesome, brought a bit of new life to it even though it’s been beat to death , can they switch to Unsustainable as a transition for once or does Matt need the tea that bad?

 

Also, kinda pissed he dropped the cool sustianiac/ whammy part in the “clown takes the throne” line in dig down, wondering if that was just an in the moment not feeling it thing or if it’s gone for good, was probably my favorite part of the song honestly

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Take A Bow sounded awesome. When the guitar came in at Pal Norte, he was tapping along to the synth and it sounded badass.

 

Same in Australia, it was awesome.

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Yeah, the sustianiac over IS did sound awesome, brought a bit of new life to it even though it’s been beat to death , can they switch to Unsustainable as a transition for once or does Matt need the tea that bad?

 

Also, kinda pissed he dropped the cool sustianiac/ whammy part in the “clown takes the throne” line in dig down, wondering if that was just an in the moment not feeling it thing or if it’s gone for good, was probably my favorite part of the song honestly

 

He might get one of those colourful baseball caps with drink holders and tube straws going into one's mouth. Just put two big thermoses of tea on there, et voilà.

 

Agree with the DD verse, the sustained guitar gave it more atmosphere and richness in sound.

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Agree with the DD verse, the sustained guitar gave it more atmosphere and richness in sound.

 

Seems like he plays the sustained guitar near the end of IS instead, at least in Mexico

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I'm seeing U2 in October and heard about this, apparently it's going to be used in a video before the opening song. Someone on a U2 forum I visit mentioned that it drained a fully charged phone down to 60% in the space of two minutes. Taking pictures at gigs is all good of course, but I'm up for this at a Muse arena gig if it takes out everyone's phones and makes for a more enthusiastic GA crowd. :LOL:

 

Clunge: I had no idea Muse closed with Showbiz in 2006 :eek:

Certainly, when I saw U2 in 2015 (and indeed have noticed from watching their gigs on YouTube, ironically), their audience is full of phone users.

 

Maybe it is a very much now thing for tours at this level, but I do find that it helps add to the dislocation you get from watching a gig through a viewfinder (or through someone else's, for that matter). And I say that well aware I take loads of pics at gigs for my Facebook friends to ignore. :chuckle:

It just means you're going to get smacked in the head at some point by someone's portable battery charger.

Very much a 21st century injury, that.

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Taking pictures at gigs is all good of course, but I'm up for this at a Muse arena gig if it takes out everyone's phones and makes for a more enthusiastic GA crowd. :LOL::

 

Ehhhh, I went to a couple A Perfect Circle shows where there is a super strict no phones rule (can't even have it out to text) and everyone abides by it, but it was one of the most dead energy crowds I've ever been in. Standers gonna stand, phones or not.

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Ehhhh, I went to a couple A Perfect Circle shows where there is a super strict no phones rule (can't even have it out to text) and everyone abides by it, but it was one of the most dead energy crowds I've ever been in. Standers gonna stand, phones or not.

 

That's interesting, I didn't know certain bands were actually that strict with phones. It's a shame the crowd was still dead, what's the age demographic like with A Perfect Circle? I know literally nothing about them.

 

At 29 I tend to be on the younger side at a U2 gig by quite a bit so I doubt a phoneless gig would be all that different. Then again, they're not exactly a band known for rough crowds/ mosh pits and the like. Muse on be other hand still have their rowdy moments and I've definitely been given a dirty looks in recent years for accidentally getting in the way of a kodak moment whilst jumping around.

 

To be fair though, SBE was fantastic. Everyone was really up for it.

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Outside of very small fanbases, US crowds are typically not that active, regardless of age, demographic, or phone use.

Honestly, I enjoy it a hell of a lot more than the constant jumping up and down and moshing of the '90s, which prevented me from really watching or enjoying the majority of gigs I went to back in the day.

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I'm not into the full on heavy mosh pits but I'm getting tired of having to push my way to the front rows each show just to get a crowd that isn't dead still. There's seats/back of the crowd always if you want calm.

 

I don't really mind losing sight of the band if I've seen them before.

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I'm sure there's just as many people up front who just want a close up view of the band they paid to see without someone slamming into them, too.

Everyone pays the same ticket price, and has the right to watch the show however they see fit, without being overly disruptive.

 

The moshing and pogoing of the '90s was absolute bullshit, tbh. It was just something you had to do, and did systematically to every single song of every single band because "that's how concerts are."

It wasn't people expressing enjoyment of the band, it was just an excuse to not control excess testosterone in a healthy manner, and "tradition."

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As a rock musician must be discouraging seeing the audience not even nodding their heads.

 

I remember watching an interview with Thom Yorke and he has the best outlook on it imo. Some crowds get rowdy, some crowds stay still and soak it in - you can never tell until you get out there and, when you do, you've just gotta accept whatever the vibe is that night, adjust and get on with it. As long as the crowd's not actively disrespecting you, it's all good.

 

Over the years, I've learned to just do me and focus on my own enjoyment at gigs, whether that means dancing/singing and shit or just watching. Probs a massive embarrassment to look at sometimes but, other than that, I'm not disrupting anyone else so fook it. If the entire crowd is doing the same as you it's obvs a perfect vibe, but I'm not gonna let whatever everyone else is doing stop me from enjoying it how I want to. Sometimes you can tell other people around you feel like doing the same so you can actually break the ice a bit for them that way as well.

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That's interesting, I didn't know certain bands were actually that strict with phones. It's a shame the crowd was still dead, what's the age demographic like with A Perfect Circle? I know literally nothing about them.

 

Same frontman from Tool, so there's fandom crossover. And the same strict rule applies for Tool & Puscifer shows. http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/a-perfect-circle-guitarist-defends-bands-no-cell-phone-policy-at-concerts/

 

As I'd say the age range is late 20s through late 40s. We're gettin' old! :'( :LOL: The Portland show's audience was a bit more energetic, while I swear I felt like I was in a library at the CA show. Pretty sure I stuck out like a sore thumb being the only handful of people into it. :$ They would have some smaller venue shows that would get a bit more energetic, but there's also a no moshing rule on that last tour last year, so I guess people just stand completely still these days? :erm:

 

Outside of very small fanbases, US crowds are typically not that active, regardless of age, demographic, or phone use.

Honestly, I enjoy it a hell of a lot more than the constant jumping up and down and moshing of the '90s, which prevented me from really watching or enjoying the majority of gigs I went to back in the day.

 

I don't miss the bruised ribs and injury days for sure, but a little movement and interest would be nice! :LOL:

 

As a rock musician must be discouraging seeing the audience not even nodding their heads.

 

Agreed. Some head nodding goes a long way.

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I clap and cheer after songs, and that's about it nowdays. I've also enjoyed the gigs a ton more for paying attention.

Phones go in the opposite direction, and I don't get how people enjoy the gig while worrying about filming or taking pictures, but again to each their own.

 

I would assume artists take some solace from seeing a packed crowd, no matter what they're doing, and the fat paycheck that that entails.

At any rate, I don't feel bad for them.

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There're soooo many levels between pogoing and doing nothing at a gig :$

 

So? Doesn't matter if it's jumping up and down, or screaming/singing at the top of my lungs. Both of them detract from my ability to watch and enjoy the show, and frankly make me feel a bit silly.

 

If people go to the gig to blow off steam, or to get physical, fine, but that's not any more valid than people who want to quietly enjoy the show, either.

My original point being, when moshing/pogoing the entire gig was a thing, people weren't always really enjoying the show the way they wanted to, either, they were just doing what they had to do.

It's better when people are just allowed to be themselves.

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Hi!!! I'm new to the forum. I've just siqned up. So I thought I'd introduce myself. Concerning the topic in hand, I'm more used to going to Kasabian gigs. They tend to force you into singalongs. I'm not really that expressive at gigs. So being cajolled into the singalong is something I remember. I don't really like it because I can't sing. I do a sort of shout thing. Being forced to singalong though, surprises you about your own singing ability. I sounded alot better than I thought I would.

What really niggles me though. I have discovered this on my travels. Is the Reading festival/Kasabian choir. I don't know what anyone else thinks about this. Maybe nobody on this thread has heard them. But they, to me. sound far too rowdy. There's something really suspicious about a load of angelic sounding middle-class, young, people singing very loudly; in unison; at two in the morning on a festival campsite; all of their own accord; with no encouragement. All of them seem to be perfectly in sync and of the same mind. So it sounds really eerie.

I don't know about anyone else, but when I hear that choir, I just fear social disorder.

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I wonder what the possibility is of Showbiz or an other rarity turning up at Rock Am Ring or maybe at Rock in Rio Lisboa.

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I was thinking something similar about Rock am Ring actually. I wouldn't be surprised if Showbiz does turn up, although I think it's been overplayed and it hasn't even been back for a year yet.

 

Given that it's Rock am Ring, I was expecting one of the forgotten Absolution songs to possibly come back - The Small Print, Endlessly, or Thoughts of - but it seems more unlikely the more I think about it.

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Mother of God, that Unsustainable at Bottlerock was just... face-melting.

They should always have played like that, metal-like, pumping and loud. I crave for experiencing it live in that version so much, now. Who knows, maybe in 2019...

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Given that it's Rock am Ring, I was expecting one of the forgotten Absolution songs to possibly come back - The Small Print, Endlessly, or Thoughts of

 

Are you saying that because of the ‘04 performance? ‘Cos they’ve played there since then.

 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Showbiz does turn up, although I think it's been overplayed and it hasn't even been back for a year yet.

 

Also I was gonna say “boys we live in a time where we can say we wouldn’t be surprised to see Showbiz, how did we get here” but then I saw the ‘overplayed’ part and honestly wtf

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