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Oh, my bad then.

 

The big sustained vocals near the end definitely have some help, in the TV performance you can clearly see that he stops singing to breathe while the vocals keep going. And it sounds the same in the concert video.

 

I thought that was a delay effect.

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Maybe Muse saw this and didn't get the joke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh2QOiVT3Zo

 

Hmmm... it does have a guitar on a stand, too...

 

Im starting to think Matt has some kind of health problem because this is far too ridiculous...

 

Once I was looking for it, I certainly noticed it's not uncommon for bands, especially aging ones, to play a few songs, and then take a short break.

The difference was, these bands were talking to the audience, telling a story, doing that dumb "introduce the band" thing - they made it look like an organic part of the show, the breaks weren't always 4 minutes long either.

 

I'm trying to imagine what some casual who has no idea what NKOK thinks about what's going on here. How the hell does that come off with the frontman leaving the stage and watching a video of a guy dressed like Elvis singing a shitty song?

 

Probs Resistance and DI. Maybe The Handler and PIB.

 

Replacements: UD, Map, Bliss, Reapers, maybe Stockholm.

 

Maybe for Toronto, or R/L. MAYBE.

Other than possibly UD, those songs are dead and buried in the US. I'm surprised Orlando got PiB and expect it to be dropped.

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So the hashtag that has started on twitter is #wewantlivemuse. I saw bunch of people using it to ask them to at least stop the NKoK nonsense. I'm sure Muse will ignore it and Tom will just mock the fans again, but I guess there's really no other way to be "heard."

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Im starting to think Matt has some kind of health problem because this is far too ridiculous...

 

The thought crossed my mind as well but he seemed well enough playing 16/17 or even 18 songs during the festival tour in 2015 with just Munich Jam as his only consistent break to go off-stage.

 

Sooo...? idk

 

Maybe for Toronto, or R/L. MAYBE.

Other than possibly UD, those songs are dead and buried in the US. I'm surprised Orlando got PiB and expect it to be dropped.

 

I can be pessimistic and still expect too much apparently :chuckle:

 

Apparently he said in one of the recent interviews that there'll be plenty of riff-heavy songs at R/L 'cos it's a "rock festival" so I guess we'll see.

 

So the hashtag that has started on twitter is #wewantlivemuse. I saw bunch of people using it to ask them to at least stop the NKoK nonsense. I'm sure Muse will ignore it and Tom will just mock the fans again, but I guess there's really no other way to be "heard."

 

Joined in, for as much good as it'll do us/the fans going to these gigs.

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Had a listen to some songs from last night and he sounds pretty much the same as he did on the Arena tour; all falsetto for the Madness ending and the falsettos in The Handler sounded scratchy again, thought the break might have rejuvenated him a little. He seemed to be struggling quite a bit with Dead Inside in particular, I know he always has but it sounded even weaker than usual.

 

I can't believe what they're doing with NKOK, what the hell?

 

I was tempted to get a day ticket for Leeds but I'm just not sure it's worth the risk anymore.

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I haven't seen the big number of clips but he sounded worse last year than on the clips from last night. Guess we'll see again a few shows down the line, mind.

 

I like New Kind of Kick tbf, plus I'm cool with it being done live. But emphasis on live. Playback vocal is going to go down in something approaching infamy.

The thought crossed my mind as well but he seemed well enough playing 16/17 or even 18 songs during the festival tour in 2015 with just Munich Jam as his only consistent break to go off-stage.

 

Sooo...? idk

 

I can be pessimistic and still expect too much apparently :chuckle:

 

Apparently he said in one of the recent interviews that there'll be plenty of riff-heavy songs at R/L 'cos it's a "rock festival" so I guess we'll see.

I guess until somebody asks about it, we won't get much of an answer, hence the increased likelihood for our own interpretations.

 

Last Reading/Leeds Festival set was 20 songs (whole Origin plus 3 each from TR, Black Holes and Abso) with a fair few bits of riffing. First one in 2006 was 15, with a Forced In intro before Bliss. Might well settle for something in-between tbh. I know Matt said a different production is being planned for these shows, so hopefully if its less video-reliant, as he suggested, there'll be less playback bollocks.

 

Although surely its rock festival credentials are pretty overdone now given there's an increased focus on their bill in recent years on dance and electronic acts?

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I was tempted to get a day ticket for Leeds but I'm just not sure it's worth the risk anymore.

 

I'm tempted to sell my Belfast ticket.

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Although surely its rock festival credentials are pretty overdone now given there's an increased focus on their bill in recent years on dance and electronic acts?

 

This is the same guy who said "we're one of the only bands making albums nowadays".

 

Matt is not a man in-touch.

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Apparently he said in one of the recent interviews that there'll be plenty of riff-heavy songs at R/L 'cos it's a "rock festival" so I guess we'll see.

 

He also said this tour would allow them to bring back some different songs. Unless he meant R/L by "tour" that was also just a lie.

Sorry to keep pooping on your parade. :chuckle:

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I'm trying to imagine what some casual who has no idea what NKOK thinks about what's going on here. How the hell does that come off with the frontman leaving the stage and watching a video of a guy dressed like Elvis singing a shitty song?

 

Precisely. That must be really, really baffling for someone not familiar with Muse's recent poor decision making. What an awkward, cringy moment. I genuinely believe if I had witnessed this live it would ruin the gig for me. Getting a gag tune would already be a bit of a push, but this...what the actual fuck. To be fair the downtime in Drones already bothered me, but I could kinda digest it as being part of some overall concept, even though I don't go to arena shows to look at screens. But this is the dumbest excuse to fill set time. If downtime really is necessary, don't treat people like they're daft and like they don't know what their money is worth. Come up with something that's decent, even if you think you might get away with the dumb, easy idea. The first time they did this I thought it was just cus they couldn't be arsed with that executive/corporate event thing. That's how effortless and tacky I thought it was :LOL:

 

For a while now it has made me a bit sad that the band appear to have a really bad case of being surrounded by yes men, and stunts like this really seem to show that. That no one around them has the balls to say "You know what thats really stupid. You're supposed to be one of the greatest live bands around", is disconcerting.

 

 

I've always been very positive about the band's general direction (musicly and show-wise) . I can't complain cus I never stopped enjoying their creative output and the setlists I got were pretty decent. But something's just not right...

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Apparently he said in one of the recent interviews that there'll be plenty of riff-heavy songs at R/L 'cos it's a "rock festival" so I guess we'll see.

 

Plenty of bass riffs

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Plenty of bass riffs

 

Two of them are pretty much the same riff, but still... :chuckle:

 

I haven't listened to many of the interviews surrounding this song, which probably should be a huge indication to myself that I'm totally checked out, but I'm still in awe over the bit where Matt said Dig Down came about because he had the bass line stuck in his head for a long time, and the song is THAT close to Madness.

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I'm tempted to sell my Belfast ticket.

 

I've been so lucky with the gigs I've been to; spur of the moment decision to go to the second Wembley date (in addition to night 1) in 2010, two dates on the Psycho tour, Assassin and AP (which had eluded me for so long) at the O2 last year...

 

Leeds 2011 and Download '15 had OoS in full and the promise of a heavier selection of songs going for them. I'm running out of incentives to go to as the sets and performances just aren't as strong as they could/should be, which makes me a bit sad really. I think I've just burned out on this cycle and want them to get this era out of the way.

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This is the same guy who said "we're one of the only bands making albums nowadays".

 

Matt is not a man in-touch.

Yeah that was a bit of a weird thing to say. Even if a lot of musicians talk shite in interviews, that was a bit of an odd step.

 

Although maybe with Reading there's a memories of the past thing, given the bills for that festival were a lot more rock-heavy back in the days they were going as teens. Saying that, last year's headline trio of Foals, Chilis and Biffy had a decent share of rock riffs.

He also said this tour would allow them to bring back some different songs. Unless he meant R/L by "tour" that was also just a lie.

Sorry to keep pooping on your parade. :chuckle:

I don't really know what my expectations are for the 3 UK shows tbh, hence why I'm still non-committal on going to see one. But the talk of a different production to the Drones Tour blocks has me hopeful it'll be different enough to the NA sets, which look pretty poor even without the NKOK debacle.

 

Tbh I'd be happy with a performance of Assassin or Butterflies & Hurricanes. Two on my "cross off" list.

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Was starting to think about getting a day ticket for Reading but fuck that! Seems the only decent gigs they do are the small ones now :(

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Well, Glen just liked one of my tweets about the short sets and heavy filler. So the message has at least been heard I guess, though we'll have to see to what extent.

 

Edit: inb4 the set tonight is Dig Down, Madness and every piece of filler they have

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Well, Glen just liked one of my tweets about the short sets and heavy filler. So the message has at least been heard I guess, though we'll have to see to what extent.

 

Edit: inb4 the set tonight is Dig Down, Madness and every piece of filler they have

 

Glenn is probably on our side, and i bet Chris and Dom aswell.

 

How is it so hard to rotate this:

 

Hysteria / MOTP

PIB / Bliss

Resistance / B&H

CE / Sunburn / AP / SS

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Glenn is probably on our side, and i bet Chris and Dom aswell.

 

How is it so hard to rotate this:

 

 

Resistance / B&H

CE / Sunburn / AP / SS

Those sound like horrible rotations.

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Yes it is a terrible setlist but could still be worse. At least there's no prelude into Starlight, or replacing The Handler with Revolt. :LOL:

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Yes it is a terrible setlist but could still be worse. At least there's no prelude into Starlight, or replacing The Handler with Revolt. :LOL:

Tbf I agree Prelude into Starlight wasn't great, but only because Prelude outshone a fairly pedestrian guitar-less Starlight.

 

I've had a listen to some recordings. Munich Jam does sound sped up, Psycho's solo sounds different - not sure if I'm a fan - and I like the adding of finger clicks over the TiRO intro.

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