haze015 Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 IIRC FF's dont oscillate with a buffered bypass before it, so it may happen that the phaser you had was true bypass. Anything with TB should technically leave the FFs operation unaffected. My Probe still oscillates with a small stone in front of it. Just you can't control it using the guitar anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freakonaleashx Posted October 23, 2006 Share Posted October 23, 2006 My Probe still oscillates with a small stone in front of it. Just you can't control it using the guitar anymore. I've never used a probe to be honest. Hmm... I want a distortion pedal for when i gig without my amp. Im used to having 3 channels available. So what two channel OD box do people recommend? Under €200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted October 24, 2006 Share Posted October 24, 2006 Righto, bass effects ordering help me please fankoo. This is what I have/will have by the start of next week: - EHX Russian Big Muff - Digitech HMXBS Bass Squeeze Dual Band Bass Compressor - Digitech HMXBW Bass Synth Wah Bass Envelope Filter + My amp of course, which isn't a great thing. Now, suggest how I should link these up for maximum effectiveness. Fankoo #2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pluginco Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 The Equipment: Ibanex artcoreAM73TTR, Amp -Mesa F-50 w/fx loop, Dunlop Crybaby wha q105, Danelectro Surf&Turn Compressor(for piercing noise), Danelectro Milkshake Chorus, Digitech multi effect. Optimum setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Just out of curiosity and for a bit of experimentation i'm gonna ask how other people would run my setup My amp has an FX loop so feel free to run stuff through there. I run: Guitar > Wah Probe > Amp FX Loop Out > Big Muff > Small Stone > EQ > Whammy - Dry to Tuner > Delay > FX Loop In The reason the Big Muff is in the loop is because i like it mixed in after my amps distortion for a nice fat sound trouble is it doesn't go loud so i use the EQ to bring the volume up for that when i need to. Starting to think maybe the whammy would be best first in the loop? Opinions and sugguestions please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donbenjy Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 if you can, try getting the tuner more to the front as possible...for example, if it was AFTER the whammy, and you had whammy on like a 5th up, obviously you'd get the wrong note. Not saying you'd be stupid enough to run the tuner after the whammy wet out, but if possible, try and get it as clean a signal as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Well i keep it clean to tune up but yeah I know what you mean. I may move the Whammy to the front of the loop, I doubt that'll affect my sound a lot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Guitar > Wah Probe > Amp FX Loop Out > Big Muff > Small Stone > EQ > Whammy - Dry to Tuner > Delay > FX Loop In I don't know what amp you've got, so here goes: Guitar > Whammy (dry out to tuner) > Wah > Big Muff > Amp Effects loops: Out > EQ > Small Stone > Delay > In May even put the Small Stone after the Big Muff, depends really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Hmmm doesn't having the whammy in the FX loop save the tone loss though? I've got a Traynor YCV40 btw. Not really into the Big Muff straight into the amp most of the time, but it finds it's self there now and again. Thanks for the input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Hmmm doesn't having the whammy in the FX loop save the tone loss though? No, does the opposite, it destroys the tone of whatever is going in, if you've got your whole setup going through it, must sound nasty I still refuse to believe Tom Morrello runs his effects through his loop, it all sounds like it's in front to me (might just have the amp cranked though) Not really into the Big Muff straight into the amp most of the time, but it finds it's self there now and again. Thanks for the input I meant before to run it into the amp distortion, I quite like that sound personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Hmm the whammy sounds like shit when it's on but bybassed it sounds ok. I find the muff before distortion a bit of a muddy mess rather than the fat smooth distortion it becomes when placed after. maybe my settings are all wrong, i'll have a play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Hmm the whammy sounds like shit when it's on but bybassed it sounds ok. I find the muff before distortion a bit of a muddy mess rather than the fat smooth distortion it becomes when placed after. maybe my settings are all wrong, i'll have a play Well, if it works for you, I can hardly argue really. I find you can sort of hide the whammy's inherent shitness by putting it before distortion. Whatever you do with your distortions is up to you, I like the muddy mess, but I'm putting mine into fairly light distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Well i'll have a play around tomorrow evening and let you know what i think. I take it you keep the muff sustain real low too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YellowSphere Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 I take it you keep the muff sustain real low too?That doesn't sound like Haze... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted October 25, 2006 Share Posted October 25, 2006 Well i'll have a play around tomorrow evening and let you know what i think. I take it you keep the muff sustain real low too? I have it on about half I think when I run it into something, don't know, usually just max it out to be honest, that pretty much what I do with my other fuzzes. That doesn't sound like Haze... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 ProCo Rat Turbo Zvex Fuzz Factory Boss DD-6 (Delay) MXR Phase 90 Boss GE-7 (Graphic Equaliser) Boss TU-2 (Tuner) Line6 Verbzilla Boss CS-3 (Compressor) Boss MT-2 (Distortion) Boss RV-5 (Reverb) Go to work someone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 ProCo Rat Turbo Zvex Fuzz Factory Boss DD-6 (Delay) MXR Phase 90 Boss GE-7 (Graphic Equaliser) Boss TU-2 (Tuner) Line6 Verbzilla Boss CS-3 (Compressor) Boss MT-2 (Distortion) Boss RV-5 (Reverb) Go to work someone Fuzz Factory Tuner GE-7 Rat CS-3 MXR Phase 90 MT-2 DD-6 Verbzilla RV-5 Although personally, I'd get rid of the TU-2, CS-3 and MT-2 and replace them with: a Strobostomp, a keeley comp/byoc comp and a Tri-Metal:p . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwydav Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 ProCo Rat Turbo Zvex Fuzz Factory Boss DD-6 (Delay) MXR Phase 90 Boss GE-7 (Graphic Equaliser) Boss TU-2 (Tuner) Line6 Verbzilla Boss CS-3 (Compressor) Boss MT-2 (Distortion) Boss RV-5 (Reverb) Go to work someone If you like using stereo setups like I do then: Fuzz Factory - MT2 - CS3 - Verbzilla - output Left -> GE-7 - Phase 90 -> output Right -> Rat - TU2 -> Both outputs come into the Reverb (it has a stereo in and out right??) if not then both outputs go into DD6 which I think is stereo as well haha and then depending on which goes first knowing that the reverb would get priority in place, the RV5 and then DD6 and then to two amps or one amp with two inputs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwydav Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Fuzz Factory Tuner GE-7 Rat CS-3 MXR Phase 90 MT-2 DD-6 Verbzilla RV-5 Although personally, I'd get rid of the TU-2, CS-3 and MT-2 and replace them with: a Strobostomp, a keeley comp/byoc comp and a Tri-Metal:p . fool of a took! listen to Scratched and Scorned. I ONLY use the MT-s for distortion in there! and the fuzz probe for background noise.. http://www.purevolume.com/kinetik and dont tell me the distortion isnt gorgeous!! I love my MT2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dramatic Hammer Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 SPAM Yeah, it sounds gash - you should get a tri-metal too! The song's cool though;) ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dwydav Posted October 26, 2006 Share Posted October 26, 2006 Yeah, it sounds gash - you should get a tri-metal too! The song's cool though;) ! who makes tri-metal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Righto, bass effects ordering help me please fankoo. This is what I have/will have by the start of next week: - EHX Russian Big Muff - Digitech HMXBS Bass Squeeze Dual Band Bass Compressor - Digitech HMXBW Bass Synth Wah Bass Envelope Filter + My amp of course, which isn't a great thing. Now, suggest how I should link these up for maximum effectiveness. Fankoo #2. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haze015 Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Anyone? Compressor > Fuzz > Wah > Amp I guess, effects on bass need an entirely different order to guitar, on guitar I tend to prefer things before distortion, on bass everything after who makes tri-metal? Zoom fool of a took! listen to Scratched and Scorned. I ONLY use the MT-s for distortion in there! and the fuzz probe for background noise.. http://www.purevolume.com/kinetik and dont tell me the distortion isnt gorgeous!! I love my MT2! You can hear its a fuzz box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunge Posted October 27, 2006 Share Posted October 27, 2006 Okies. Merci . I'll just fiddle when everything arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuz Posted October 28, 2006 Share Posted October 28, 2006 ProCo Rat Turbo Zvex Fuzz Factory Boss DD-6 (Delay) MXR Phase 90 Boss GE-7 (Graphic Equaliser) Boss TU-2 (Tuner) Line6 Verbzilla Boss CS-3 (Compressor) Boss MT-2 (Distortion) Boss RV-5 (Reverb) Go to work someone why would you have 2 reverbs? i mean, i can understand having 61032097679 different delay pedals, but i don't really see the point as much with reverb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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