JimboMansonMB-1 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 I think the phaser speed must be on the front, I had a version of PIB from 2001 maybe 02 from Italy and during the verse he was using the phaser to speed up the FF oscilation, That would of been awkward to do if the control was at the back of the guitar, but having said that my guitar mag from 2001 says its at the back :/ Is it this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5rXCjlcq1I Edit: DL-1 has no forearm contour anymore, so mirroring would be easy...hmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord MFC Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Is it this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5rXCjlcq1I Edit: DL-1 has no forearm contour anymore, so mirroring would be easy...hmm dont think thats 2001... look at the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musclemuse00 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 nope not that, before muse were huge, dont think if was filmed and yes it was before lazer was built ill have a look see if I still have it think it was on a cd from a music magazine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry. Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 Is it me or were they playing that extremely slow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musclemuse00 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 ok I found something very similar on the pig baby live version on the new born cd single, cant tell if its phaser or not but I can do something very similar with my ff and phaser, listen to the second verse ftp://ftp2.microcuts.net/microcuts/08/05/03/01/19.02.2001%20-%20Paradiso,%20BBC%20radio,%20Show%20biz%20-%20MP3/06%20-%20Muse%20-%20Plug%20In%20Baby%20%28Live%20At%20Paradiso%2012-04-2001%29%20-%20Show%20Biz.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 ok I found something very similar on the pig baby live version on the new born cd single, cant tell if its phaser or not but I can do something very similar with my ff and phaser, listen to the second verse ftp://ftp2.microcuts.net/microcuts/08/05/03/01/19.02.2001%20-%20Paradiso,%20BBC%20radio,%20Show%20biz%20-%20MP3/06%20-%20Muse%20-%20Plug%20In%20Baby%20%28Live%20At%20Paradiso%2012-04-2001%29%20-%20Show%20Biz.mp3 killswitch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrIX2t7OZLQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musclemuse00 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 yeah does sound like it, im gonna have to give up, cant find it anywhere, must of been the mxr as I could hear the wah type sound from it, oh well. If I had a phaser built in id want the speed on the front of the guitar like that guy from Soundgarden? Tbh it was prob kill switch + mxr on normal speed setting, didnt know u could make it sound that fast with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 yeah does sound like it, im gonna have to give up, cant find it anywhere, must of been the mxr as I could hear the wah type sound from it, oh well. If I had a phaser built in id want the speed on the front of the guitar like that guy from Soundgarden? sure its def kill switch? sounds too fast in places strange, i'm not sure in that case. and yeah, check the second verse in that video i just posted - same noise and you can see what he's doing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musclemuse00 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 yeah edited my post, def k/switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musclemuse00 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 having the mxr built into the Delorean that way seems totally pointless imo, why have the speed at the back where u cant change it mid song? The whole point of the ff built in was to control the oscilation from the guitar instead of bending down, the only advantage of the mxr is being able to turn the effect on & off at the guitar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 having the mxr built into the Delorean that way seems totally pointless imo, why have the speed at the back where u cant change it mid song? The whole point of the ff built in was to control the oscilation from the guitar instead of bending down, the only advantage of the mxr is being able to turn the effect on & off at the guitar yeah, though i thought it had something to do with the order they were in. the MXR didn't sound good after the FF or something. but i can't tell how they're wired up from that picture, so i might be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshH Posted February 8, 2011 Share Posted February 8, 2011 it will be interesting to see how the DL-1's are wired up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboMansonMB-1 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 dont think thats 2001... look at the guitar. I know but it's the only one I know from Italy Haha obviously phaser speed isn't something Matt changes much, the way he uses it isn't as much an effect as a sort of white/background noise, i.e. Stockholm Syndrome Love that killswitch effect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord MFC Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 yeah, though i thought it had something to do with the order they were in. the MXR didn't sound good after the FF or something. but i can't tell how they're wired up from that picture, so i might be wrong but some dont have a phaser and ff, right? like the chrome bomber?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 but some dont have a phaser and ff, right? like the chrome bomber?! No. He probably had the delorean built with a FF and phaser because plug in baby uses both of those effects. Same with the mirror, which has been used for that song since the end of 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboMansonMB-1 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Same with the mirror, which has been used for that song since the end of 2004. I kinda want to convert a DL-1 to that, just because it's always been my favorite Wouldn't really be too hard, would it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 I kinda want to convert a DL-1 to that, just because it's always been my favorite http://www.microcuts.net/gallery/data/media/2/Manson_Mirror_Earls_Court.jpg Wouldn't really be too hard, would it? you'd probably have to leave the back and headstock painted though, but i'm not sure. adding a mirrored top isn't that cheap. not sure if i'm going to do it at this point with my tele, but we'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Jimbo, the solid mirror body weighs a ton and is really uncomfortable to play because of the sharp edges and flat back. It does look nice though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimboMansonMB-1 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Jimbo, the solid mirror body weighs a ton and is really uncomfortable to play because of the sharp edges and flat back. It does look nice though! Hmm yeah, maybe just mirror the front James, pm me your estimate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Hmm yeah, maybe just mirror the front James, pm me your estimate? plus if the back is contoured, i don't think you'd be able to mirror that part anyway sending a PM now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bs Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Is there no way of mirroring a contoured body? I'd have thought they'd be some way around it. Maybe some kind of reflective paint layer or something. I don't know. Surely it must be possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 Chroming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord MFC Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 dunno why mirror topping is expensive... acrylic is dirt cheap and it's pretty easy to do.. apart from the edges... i agree with Jim - the earls court is awesome. @james i meant the bomber has a ff but not a phaser. i think it's coz matt doesn't like stomp boxes that he has it in his guitar no, really, he uses wahs and whammys but not many stomps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phill Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 If making a guitar from scratch then mirror topping is easy, but with a guitar that's already finished it'd be a lot of hassle. Some people would do it fairly cheap but unless they make it worth their while I'm sure mansons would rather not do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james90 Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 If making a guitar from scratch then mirror topping is easy, but with a guitar that's already finished it'd be a lot of hassle. Some people would do it fairly cheap but unless they make it worth their while I'm sure mansons would rather not do it. Yeah, it requires taking some wood off the top. Sounded like they were willing to do it to my tele, but that's for the top only. I'm probably going to do it at some point though. And the guitar is a painted flat top guitar, so it would be easier than mirroring a DL-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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