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I also reckon in a year or so's time I will have dropped SH, DD, GUAF and TC from any attempts to listen to this album, and retreated into a synthy/space playlist containing Algorithm, TDS, TaB, MoTP, T2L: IS, Glorious, Knights, Exo Pts 1-3 and The Void (I'd mayyybe find room for Blockades and something like DI or UD in there too). I also think The Handler wouldn't sound too out of place if added in the right spot, who knows.
That's exactly what I did yesterday
My spotify playlist goes like this:
Algorithm
The Dark Side
Pressure
Propaganda
Break It To Me
Blockades
The Void
Algorithm (alternate)
The Dark Side (alternate)
The Void (acoustic)
The Dark Side (Instrumental)
If I pretend the last four tracks are just like a reprise you'd see on a concept album, then it's actually a really tight 11-track record.
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Still early days, but for me
Absolution
OOS
BHaR
ST ~ TR (I'm gonna need some time to decide which I like more)
Showbiz
Drones
T2L
This exactly. Resistance might still slightly edge it for me, on account of MK and Exogenesis.
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After a few listens I gotta say I love the overall tone The Void has, but not liking the vocals very much, especially in the verses. Sort of makes me cringe and I can't actually put my finger on why that is.
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Weirdly into this gospel version of Dig Down I won't lie to you all
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Get up and fight just isn't good at all
The only I didn't like so far
Agreed, belongs firmly in the SH and DD bracket for my money.
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Probably on a post-leak high but I haven't heard a track from the previously unreleased lot that I haven't liked yet.
Except maybe Get Up And Fight, sounds way too much like Revolt 2.0 for my liking.
The rest I'm reeeally digging though
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Algorythm is absolutely top drawer
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Okay so I'm listening, seems legit from what I can tell.
EDIT: is legit
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The post on Reddit got pulled and I can't seem to get on my usual sites to check.
Anyone having any luck?
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I clearly remember people hearing Follow Me at Taratata before its release in 2012 and describing it as Dead Star 2.
In fairness those early pre-album live vids from E-Werk in Cologne, despite being recorded on phones, made tracks like Follow Me and Supremacy sound incredible imo, got me so hyped for the album.
...Then we got the real tracks a couple of weeks later
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Great tune, their best since The Handler/Reapers in my opinion
Think the overwhelmingly positive reception to TDS shows what most of us have known all along, fans aren't completely averse to stylistic change, it's simply the quality of the track.
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I kind of hope for a future scenario where they come full circle and scale down the shows, but in all honesty there is absolutely no precedent to suggest they are going to do that.
As for the music itself, I sort of think it's beyond redemption at this point. That's definitely not to say everything they've release last few years has been poor from top to bottom, but as someone mentioned earlier, even in most of the tracks that garner high praise, there's an unshakable element of cheesiness and bombast that seems to be hard wired into Matts writing at this point.
Part of me wonders what Chris and Dom make of it all, because Dom was talking up the Handler pre album release, which imo is pretty much as close as they've got to so called 'classic' Muse in the last 10 years, whilst Matt was waxing lyrical about The Globalist. Makes you think.
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I think they're in that stage, but what we know of how Matt's mind works, I'm not sure if he's ready for the break yet. Sometimes I feel he's too anxious to just give himself some time. Like he thinks people would forget them and their music.
Yeah, completely agree, as I do with pretty much everything said on this last page. I think them achieving considerably more success in the US from the Resistence onwards has definitely played into this too. Maybe he's worried this is their peak and to take a lengthy break now would be detrimental to their success.
But the thing is, I think they're past the stage of being a band who have to release music consistently to stay relevant. As someone said before, taking a 6-7 year hiatus might even improve the quality of the music and they would come back to sold out dates globally when they returned, without question.
Either that or they just genuinely enjoy the constant touring
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I know. It's sounded so shit for years now. It's made even more dull by Interlude as well.
Actually, I thought Hysteria at Download last year sounded pretty decent in person. Then I saw it on Sky Arts and I stand by it, strong performance imo.
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Showbiz: Escape
OOS: Feeling Good
Absolution: Intro (bit of a cop out but there is nothing from the album I dislike)
BH&R: Soldiers Poem
The Resistance: I Belong To You
The 2nd Law: Save Me (tough to choose between this and Explorers in fairness)
Drones: Revolt
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Probably because you would assume as a non-fan that the title track of the album would be a lead single, but nope not for Drones
Do you think at the point people thought Radio 4 was playing instead?
If that's the case, I would love to have seen his face during the show
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Good old Radio 2.
The dj was american and all I caught beforehand was "title track from their album" so I didn't know who or what he was talking about. I frantically looked around the workplace for someone who would care/understand to no avail.
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That's pretty cool and weird! You should stick that in the "Where have you heard Muse?" thread over in Muse in the Media.
Yeah good point, re-posted it there
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Dear god imagine my surprise this evening when listening to BBC Radio 2 at work and amidst a flurry of standard contemporary tracks old and new I suddenly hear the line "Kiiiiiiiilllled Byyyyyyy Droooooooooooones".
Yes I am not joking, the track Drones was actually played on the radio, and Radio 2 at that. It wasn't even during a special Muse feature or anything like that. Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Dido, The Eagles then bam, the sound of a choir of Matts fills the restaurant kitchen. I can only assume the DJ saw Muse had a new album and played the title track without screening it himself beforehand, but even that is unlikely.
Anyway, just thought i'd share that with you all
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then do a swift jig and everything will be ok. Maybe rainbows will come out of the screen while you're at it
I never usually pull someone up for posting something, I just meant there's obviously things that deserve reporting and things that can just be discussed in the thread, not sure why disagreeing with someone's opinion on an album warrants a report, nor was it particularly off-topic in the context of this thread. Not as much as you and I discussing Hannibal anyway
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Stay on topic please, if you find fault in anyone's posts, please report.
What if a post doesn't deserve reporting, but certainly deserves comment?
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I think it's why their music translates well to an orchestral setting and why a lot of orchestras cover their songs.
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One thing that I think people really like about this record is that it sounds like more influence was taken from classical/romantic era composers, namely The Handler. That IYW solo section is very classically influenced. This is also why the most loved songs from TR are MK Ultra and Exogenesis and why OoS and Abso are the most loved albums. They're basically classical music played with a modern 3 piece band.
Most of TR & T2L is not classically oriented which is where I think the hate comes from. Their influence comes from other places. T2L especially is very different from the other's in that sense.
Anyway that's what I think it is. I'm a big TR fan but I know exactly what about it people don't like. Drones is great though and I'm starting to think it might be better than TR.
That sounds quite plausible, I remember someone saying (maybe Rich Costey or Storm Thorgerson, possible neither) saying that Absolution had elements of some of Phillip Glass and his work over the years, which I love. I think the Handler's solo definitely sounds like something he would produce, with it's constant looping and tension building.
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Ehmmm, do I know you??
Haha I dont think so! I love Nolan btw, I think it's fantastic there's a big budget director who is pushing the boundaries and trying something different with each film, but this guy thinks he is the only director capable of helming anything. I.e the Star Wars franchise, another Godfather installment
, literally anything. Plus his films aren't really that dark, he just did a grittier, more realistic take on Batman and people have lost their minds about how dark his films are. Most of them have an uplifting, positive message at the end.
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Depending on the day, I would maybe swap MK and Blockades, but yeah pretty much spot on.
I still maintain that the solo in Defector is one of my favourite things Muse have done and it belongs in a far far better track.
Edit: meant MK, not Exo